BS AR and AR Abuse/Harassment

Last night, I was in one of my favorite bloody events at NCI... The Blitz Build. I was in my current "Batteries Included" USB Cyborg Toy avatar. I was enclosed in my Grid Crash Protection box and building away to the "Emergency" theme... It was gonna be an asset server rack with prims falling out of it. (^_^)

But no.....

[You have been logged off of SL]

CRUD!!!! (>_<

... Then I come in to the picture. Immy uses me as a crash recovery plan so that no time is lost in the build. But there was already a problem. The build was fast, but the main work was the scripting. I already had 15 of the 40 minutes passed and whild I could edit her objects, I couldn't edit the scrpit. That made it nearly impossible to finish on time. (>_<

Then....

*DING* Immy's Gmail pops up and says....



Immy trys to log in and gets notification that her account ain't available for another hour. (T_T)

I shut down my build and tell the blitz crowd that Immy has been LindPWNed for ageplay. What kind of ageplay I'd LOVE to know! The crowd, mostly Immy's friends, is baffled.(>_<

...So I get started on my trouble ticket, ask around the crowd if there's some looney perv or something... Nothing... But apparently, building while cooped up in a crate is a lewd sexual act to someone, and a Cybernetic Toy avatar is a child. (T_T)

Here's the fun part...

I wake up this morning to....



Okay.... YUU WAS A FRIGG'N SIX BLOODY FOOT TALL ADULT AVATAR!!! So my AR harasser has shot him/her self in the foot here. But... It shows a current flaw in the AR system. From what I've seen, response to these ARs was shoot-first-ask-questions-later. This is a gaping hole in the process that ALLOWS abusers while punishing the abused and leaving only the slow drugery of the support ticket system. (>_<

What other recourse can I have from this? I've filled out my ticket. I plan to take this to the G-Team office hours. But, really, can the AR system be THIS bloody messed up? (>_<

That is a rhetorical question, right?



Sorry for your troubles, Immy - hope it gets straightened out soon.
*hugs*

Yes

...is that a rhetorical question?

What's actually more interesting is... Will the one who BS ARs get punished for this act if no wrongdoing is discovered? Because I suspect they won't be, and that is a problem...

Technically this thread violates the guidelines about complaining about in world punishments.

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That said -

How can a robot violate the sexual ageplay rules?

Is there any way some group or some prior incident was enough to warrant you a one hour suspension?

What sort of Ageplay violation is only a 1 hours suspension anyhow - Child Avatar nudity?

As to you other AV I would hope it was suspended for logging in to sidestep the other ban, rather than breaking the rules on that AV.

Otherwise the Lindens would be issuing punishments based on only hearsay, which would be a bad thing.

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The Robot thing is potentially very messed up - on a few levels

If they actually gave you a suspension for your robot AV violating Ageplay it means they have widely broadened their brush as far as possible offenses. A robot equaling a child AV?

Or .. perhaps more disturbingly .. do they will hold the account of a "Child AV" to having to comply to the standards of Child AVs .... EVEN when they are wearing another Avatar!?!


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Or is this just because they are hypersensitive because of Burning Life ---- Basically the same prejudice that led to them trying to exclude Child Avatars from making builds?

The suspension of the second av was probably just cleaning up and, if the first av really had been doing some sexual child play, then removing all known alts would be the right thing to do, as it's the person at the keyboard who needs to be suspended, regardless of what avs they have.

Wow...that stinks Immy.

I think I saw you at the cartel with that av the other night?

If I had to make a guess, I'd say someone who doesn't know any better looked at you as saw 'little girl, scantily dressed', and not 'cyborg toy'. I had to look twice to make up my own mind.

I'm sure you weren't breaking any rules. You strike me as someone who knows better.

I'd chalk it up to someone who thought you were in a 'sexy little girl' av, and doesn't understand the 'ageplay' rules. (I just read through them myself...they are confusing to new people.) And not someone who was trying to use an AR to grief you.

And it sounds like LL takes a 'take action, and sort it out later' approach to the 'ageplay' AR. Probably why there was the one hour ban.

Maybe you got nobbled because you were going to win the competition,sour grapes?

Heh... A rule breaker to the end. =^-^=
I would have felt better if Yuu got banned for "Alt Abuse". (=_=)

Next it will be anyone who has a surname in common with a child AV. (>_<

Actually... Burning Life has been a wide open atmosphere with little to no drama over child avatars. In fact, the Child AV community has received quite a bit of positive feedback over their participation in Burning Life. It was SL5B that was the debacle. (>_<

To end... I did have a legit question... Just a funny way of working up to it. In my eyes, I'm in a situation where I'm being irrevocably harassed by a completely anonymous person who is gaming a system meant to prevent such abuses as harassment. (>_<

Is there any other action I can do? I'm guessing right now, I'm stuck with the amazingly slow Support Ticket system. That or snailmail my response. (T_T)

Guh! Maybe I'll frigg'n create a Jira from this to suggest a way to avoid the AR system from being gamed. (>_<

Looks like Tonya Harding gave you a good ol' slap across the knees. Dirty cheat! Hope you get back in soon.

LL really do need to clear up the confusion about 'ageplay' and make it absolutely bloody clear that it's SEXUAL ageplay - an adult and a child avatar engaging in sexual activity of some kind or another - that is against ToS, and not the form of ageplay that is simply being a child in SL. Far too many clueless people think that just *seeing* a child avatar inworld means they're seeing ageplay... and they *are*.

Seeing ageplay, I mean.

They're seeing a RL adult playing at being an SL child. That's ageplay, but it's not SEXUAL ageplay; it's REGRESSIVE ageplay. Even Wikipedia is quite clear (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageplay), segregating ageplay into two subsets: regressive ageplay (what the likes of Marianne, Toy, Dakota etc do in SL) and sexual ageplay.

The likes of the person that reported Immy needs to remember to take the 'sexual' bit into consideration when they over-react. Being a child in SL is, in itself, not AR-able. It may make people feel uncomfortable, but that's no reason to get ban-happy about it.

Yeah... I've been in the avatar for over a week now. One would imagine my practically C-cup chest, blinking light rings, stainless steel eyes, and buzzing&humming noises would quell the confusion. Not to mention... My alt was 6 over feet tall and got the same AR. (=_=)

We have heard people who AR Child Avs they see only because that Child Av belongs to some Adult Sexually themsed groups.

As if they think that resident is incapable of changing Avatars to an Adult one for participation in that group.

This

Was the avatar provocative in any way?

Was it a case of:

"OMG that Avatar has the sexy -- But that profile has KIDS GROUPS in it!!???!"

If being child like was bannable, then half the Lindens would have to ban themselves.. ;P

It is a shame that there are those so in touch with deityhood that they *know* what is right and wrong for all of us, yet so in touch with being human they refuse to go back to the deityland like they should, and leave us alone to make our own mistakes, learn or not learn, and have fun!

Immy is me... I take on Child, Loli, and adult forms. I'm a member of kid and adult groups. I just left one adult group Saturday because the group chat was annoying, but no bad blood... I didn't complain and I still have friends there. I've already talked with Lindens in the past about guilt by association... My being in groups has nothing to do with my inworld behaviour. (=_=)

As for being provocative... It's a mature avatar, of course it will be provocative. (T_T) .... I'm using the new Mamesando AO that's intended for their new school girl avatar. It seemed fitting for a machine and is very "Anime" like in it's movements. Almost all the stand poses place my right hand over my chest... But still.. It's a HUGE chest! I have a bad habit of posting pictures, I'll avoid it here for now. You can see it in my Snapzilla page. (>_<

They could have just AR'ed your profile as well, you can't assert to be any age not allowed on the main grid (although they likely would have changed it in that case).

Just pointing out one way that you could be doing something innocent but still get AR'ed regardless.

"...if a tree falls in the forest..."

Pardon me for derailing, but I had an interesting thought.

Suppose we create two accounts, A and B, belonging to the same person. That same person dresses up both as child avatars, then logs them out. Then the hypothetical perpetrator sets up an MLP-based animation device full of animations of sexual nature in a private region where no visitors are allowed. The animation device is set up in such a way as to be triggerable from chat commands.

Then they use Metabolt or another non-graphical client to log in both avatars and proceed to seat them onto the poseballs and engage in a sexual animation that even the owner themselves doesn't see, and nobody else can observe since the region is private.

Has sexual ageplay been committed or not?

Yeah... I'm planning a total overhaul of my profile. The only asserted ages I have there are the RP ages I use in a split character definition in my picks. Still, I doubt there's a rule against that until I see the exact wording in a blog or TOS statement. At the most, it's suggested not to just to avoid confusion, not an actual violation. I guess I'm updating my second life more than I'm updating my profile. (=_=)

I did get the notorius ageplay notecard over 1 and half year ago (this was before the ban when only advertising was banned) for the simple reason that I asked for any job in my profile and stating a rp age of 6, apperently the life help linden saw that as enough reason to give me that card and order me to change my profile.

honestly it was a griefing AR... I was there when Immy got slammed and ALL NCI is PG, it was a event Immy was in, no sexual things at all in any NCI event, it was a timed build for prizes. I hope whoever did the AR is punished, there was NO AGE-PLAY. Its become apparent that LL has automated age AR's there was no investigation. Hopefully now that its monday a Linden will look at the AR and fix the griefing AR.