Read this please...seeking your help

They get turned on . . . by what is essentially a rectal exam?

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Too bad about the no stirrups thing. There would be a sort of poetic justice if they were used.

OMG - if we start on "poetic justice" we will never end.

and it probably wouldn't rhyme, either...

*cough*

Hello again,

I posted this thread at the first place and you just 'took' it somewhere else (which to be honest doesn't bother me at all)

Just to remind you that I am just asking for your help here...just let me know if you can be of help to me.

Thanks a lot

Grace

I'm guessing that most who are interested in helping you have probably done so already. Most of the people in this forum at least, are tired of being lab rats and guniea pigs for "researchers" and "students". A lot of us, myself included, are not interested in RL brand visibility in SL, and see these requests as just data mining and marketing ploys, and refuse to assist in it. You have prevented yourself much better than many at least, and have shown a good sense of humor, but you would probably do better by just going inworld and asking people in shopping areas. Good Luck with your project, whatever it may be.

I talked to Grace last night. While she did return repeatedly to the idea of "do you shop for RL brands in SL", I think I fnally managed to get across that there really aren't any, to any significant degree.

We exhibit the same shopping BEHAVIORS in SL as in RL. There *is* brand recognition here, and people buy products because of their perceived status (e.g., Bax Cohen boots). But the Big Names are different here than in RL. If Jimmy Choo wants to sell me pixel shoes, he'll darn well have to show me that they're as good or better than Bax's.

So, how are the prostate exams going?

How the heck would I know? Haven't got one.

Hee -

I meant Grace.

I thought you had forgotten about it

Well you know, not all ppl want a prostate exam...haven't done it yet;
But surely I ll let you know when I do it ...Actually, I m waiting for Yann to be my first attempt lol

Figures no one's ponied up yet. ;p

Although I have to say, I'm not volunteering for the girl "equivalent" either. LOL

I know some guys who would have a *very* strong opinion on this matter.

I'll just leave this here...

"Similarly, some of the first educators and researchers in SL were a bit clumsy in their approach. There were early incidents in which Residents felt—rightly—that they were being spied upon or treated like guinea pigs rather than human beings. Imagine how you would feel if an entire class of students set up right next to your vacation hideaway, left trash lying around, logged your conversations, and posted them on the Internet with criticism and mean-spirited comments. This is exactly what happened to some early Residents. Things have improved greatly in the years since then, but sometimes SL Residents are still subject to that kind of inconsiderate behavior. For example, a constant stream of researchers (often students) posts on the Second Life official forums requesting that Residents please take their surveys. Most of these surveys include the same questions that have been asked over and over. Often they aren't spell-checked, or refer to SL as a game—a sure way to irritate a substantial number of Residents. Some Residents make a hobby of critiquing these surveys, pointing out how the questions and their wording make it clear that the researcher isn't familiar with Second Life. Some post outright that they are sick of badly planned surveys and suggest that the researchers log in and do their own research."

From The Second Life Grid: The Official Guide to Communication, Collaboration, and Community Engagement
by Kimberly Rufer-Bach
ISBN-13: 9780470412916

In Grace's defense, I would like to add a couple of points.
Join Date: May 2008
- This alone is significate but one can tell by her candor she(? I hate to make assumptions but Grace is a typical feminine name) has been using SL and is a resident, not an alt made for a quick study.

Asking for interviews.
- Not an external poll so no poorly worded responses. Also, this is again done inside SL where the residents live.

IMHO, Grace does not fit in with the droves that have sketchy questions with leading answers on a site designed to capture spam lists that is so typical of the people the above qutoed essay was written about.

This.

And if I could find the time to actually GET in-world these days, I'd contact Grace and answer her survey . . .

Thanks Rhonda for saying these things. I have to say that they are true. I am an honest person. I am an SL resident since the 28th April 2008. I think I am familiar enough with Second Life in order for me to start doing research on ppl. And I NEVER refer to SL as a game. And to be totally honest with you, I get irritated when someone says that and I keep saying to them that SL is NOT a game. It is something beyond that.

Thanks a lot Scylla. I'd really appreciate it

Oh dear! Now you have gone and spoiled it! Of *course* SL is a game . . .

Pep ( . . . it's part of real life, which is an even bigger and more complex game. )

Yes, I think Grace has done everything right.

You can see from her profile that she's an actual resident.

Yes, in that sense it is a 'game'. But ppl who refer to it as a game do not see it as part of real life...that's the difference

Yep. That's key. I have friends who refuse to use the term "real life" because it implies that the experience of SL is not, somehow, "real": they use the term "physical life" instead.

The important point is that, while our experiences within virtual worlds are certainly "different" in many ways from "RL" (or "PL", if you prefer), they are still "real" experiences: they impact upon us emotionally and intellectual in very real and palpable ways.

Except, of course, for our "experience" of Pep. Pep is an illusion.

I'll also say that she isn't doing a "survey", in the fill-out-the-form-and-check-the-boxes sense. It's an interview. She does have something of a prepared list of questions to ask, but you get to really ANSWER them, not just check a box. And you can go off down side roads.

Sorry, didn't do the 'Quote' thing correct before. I apologise. I m going to re-write my post:

Well, IMO the way ppl see SL depends on the reasons they have joined SL (which I m sure vary) and/or how immersed they are to SL and how much they are (emotionally) involved/engaged to their avis.

I m sorry for any inconvenience.