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Pie Psaltery
runs w/scissors
Join date: 13 Jan 2004
Posts: 987
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04-03-2008 07:48
You could always just ask a certain prominent and well-known texture seller why it was she felt she had the right to bully and threaten people over copyright issues even tho she didn't actually have any claim to the textures she was so vocal about defending her legal rights to even tho she had no rights other then having purchased a CD of the textures ... she should have a better insight as to why people might go about shouting "DMCA VIOLATION" when no such violation had occured.
Your challenger scared you, Salvia, because you are trying to be an honest person. You immediately took down everything the challenger claimed to have "exclusive rights" to because you want to be honest. Your challenger got an immediate victory, just by scaring you; no proof, no parperwork, no nothing but a threat. Heck, if your challenger does file a DMCA report against you, LL will most likely make you take your product down even before THEY have any real information, even if the report is baseless.
It's a very interesting way to handle competition, huh?
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Mily Sartre
Registered User
Join date: 5 Oct 2005
Posts: 150
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04-03-2008 08:01
Lotería is an old popular game played by kids and grandmas in México for generations, its played in all kind of places, not lotto, not lottery, more like a bingo with images.
Traditional lotería pictures are from the 30s/40s and they have been around everywhere. You sit on long benches with your board and a bunch of beans to mark the pictures that were called. The person who calls the pictures has to make some kind of rhyme to call it. Totally traditional. You play this in schools, like kindergarden, you play it in fairs, you play it in kids bday parties and usually you get a prize if you're a winner.
I've bought sets of lotería in markets for 2 pesos, then I've bought some nice boxed ones in established stores for 30 pesos or so, both use the same pictures, same figures, same names. No, no copyrighted material! How can you copyright a tradition?
The person who claimed this must be trying to scam you Salvia, what she says cant be true. Go ahead and enjoy your lotería creations. In fact, I would love to see them, please contact me inworld and send me a LM to your store.
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Oryx Tempel
Registered User
Join date: 8 Nov 2006
Posts: 7,663
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04-03-2008 09:09
Looking at all these different sets of Loteria cards, it looks like you can do what you like. Some of the sets pictured ARE copyrighted, some are Chinese ripoffs (LOL), some have trademarked names, etc. But it looks like the majority are just pictures. At any rate, I learned two cool things here; that Madhu sounds totally badass when she speaks Lawyerese, and that Loteria is like bingo.  |
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Elgyfu Wishbringer
The Pootler
Join date: 27 Nov 2004
Posts: 659
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04-03-2008 09:12
Might I add what I think is a relevant point...
Where did you get your images from?
If you downloaded them from the web, then they might be someone else's photos or scans - maybe hers?
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Kaimi Kyomoon
Kah-EE-mee
Join date: 30 Nov 2006
Posts: 5,664
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04-03-2008 09:31
From: Stephen Wisent Hi Kaimi,
If.. and a big IF.. the claimant here could prove anything, and had both the money and the motivation to pursue this..
My first question would be "who" would they come after? LL isn't going to release your RL details because someone thinks they have a civil case against you. If they did, or we even suspected they would, SL would be a different place.
Even if the "who" was identified but lived on the other side of the world, the second question would be "how"?
My third question would be "why"? Assuming the infringement is covered by US law, and that the claimant has a case, and that the "thief" is identified.. what would they out of the chase?
Because this is what it really boils down to in most of these type of instances.. what could the defendant really afford to pay?
Seriously, these threads are interesting for their own sake, but nobody is going to track the OP across the world by fair means or foul, investigate their RL financial status and then instigate an international legal case for the sake of a few tens of dollars earned in SL.
An toothless injunction maybe.. anything else...in RL.. never going to happen. Hi Stephen. I think all your points are very good. But I have a Rolling Stones tee shirt I made that I like to wear sometimes in SL - you know with the tongue logo. I don't sell copies of it, though, because my over active imagination envisions Charlie Watts's av (or more likely the attorney of whoever owns the license to sell Stones merchandies) coming into my store and noticing that I'm realizing profits that should be his. I picture Charlie getting his legal team on it and LL being forced...OK it's farfetched. From: Mily Sartre Lotería is an old popular game played by kids and grandmas in México for generations, its played in all kind of places, not lotto, not lottery, more like a bingo with images.
Traditional lotería pictures are from the 30s/40s and they have been around everywhere. You sit on long benches with your board and a bunch of beans to mark the pictures that were called. The person who calls the pictures has to make some kind of rhyme to call it. Totally traditional. You play this in schools, like kindergarden, you play it in fairs, you play it in kids bday parties and usually you get a prize if you're a winner.
I've bought sets of lotería in markets for 2 pesos, then I've bought some nice boxed ones in established stores for 30 pesos or so, both use the same pictures, same figures, same names. No, no copyrighted material! How can you copyright a tradition?
The person who claimed this must be trying to scam you Salvia, what she says cant be true. Go ahead and enjoy your lotería creations. In fact, I would love to see them, please contact me inworld and send me a LM to your store. This sounds like the voice of reason. I'd like to see the tee shirts too. I think it sounds like a really cool idea. Thanks for explaining it all, Madhu .
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