Second Life Forums Archive - Uhm, Weird Happening?

Mimi Coral

Meow

Join date: 22 May 2004

Posts: 257

10-21-2007 15:12

I was just uploading textures in world and one of them was supposed to be a face skin..but it was some random snapshot of people I have never seen before. I checked my file on my computer and it's definitely not that snapshot, so what does that mean? How odd is that?

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Talon DeCuir

Angel

Join date: 19 May 2007

Posts: 350

10-21-2007 15:15

The texture is haunted - how fitting for the Halloween season!

Serious note: yes, totall weird.

Kitty Barnett

Registered User

Join date: 10 May 2006

Posts: 5,586

10-21-2007 15:16

http://www.secondlifeinsider.com/2007/10/18/lost-and-found-asset-server-gives-wrong-snapshot/

Not an isolated incident it seems

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If the asset server is handing out duplicate UUIDs we're in trouble

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Altimar Edelweiss

Lost in Space

Join date: 13 Nov 2006

Posts: 70

10-21-2007 15:35

So thats where half my stuff went.

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Stephanie Misfit

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Join date: 25 May 2006

Posts: 155

10-21-2007 16:59

The real question is, where did your skin texture go? Hopefully not to someone else, full perms, showing them as creator.

Tristin Mikazuki

Sarah Palin ROCKS!

Join date: 9 Oct 2006

Posts: 1,012

10-21-2007 17:01

I wonder if odd things are gona start happing with Linden transactions now...gawd that would suck...

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Erin Talamasca

Registered User

Join date: 18 Sep 2005

Posts: 617

10-21-2007 17:26

This happened to me while I was uploading vendor textures, 6 at a time.

Third time round, one of them was bricks. Bricks?! I don't sell bricks?! Checked the file on my computer, fine. Checked the 'uploaded' file in SL - bricks.

Tried it again and got my picture. L$10 on BRICKS, I ask you!

EDIT: I have a nice full perms brick texture now if anyone wants i-waaaaaaait a minute this could be really bad O.o

Scott Tureaud

market base?

Join date: 7 Jun 2007

Posts: 224

10-21-2007 18:07

for the past two months I've had the same thing with objects. go to rezz one and end up with a different item.

Fluf Fredriksson

Registered User

Join date: 8 Feb 2007

Posts: 248

10-21-2007 18:29

I'm really really hoping one of you guys bothered to make a JIRA entry for this kind of thing??? If you did. Stick a link here so we can all vote for it to be "fixed internally" huh?

Genku Kumaki

Registered User

Join date: 26 Sep 2007

Posts: 29

10-21-2007 18:32

I'm not sure there is anything we can do about this sort of thing since the asset server is on their end. Also, has anyone been able to recreate this error? Not sure if these are requirements of a JIRA report, but it would probably be a good idea anyways.

Rusalka Writer

Registered User

Join date: 12 Jun 2007

Posts: 314

10-21-2007 18:52

Same thing happened to me yesterday. I wanted one of my new sculpt texts, and got a picture of some avi in a ball gown. Not worth the L$10.

Mimi Coral

Meow

Join date: 22 May 2004

Posts: 257

10-21-2007 18:54

From: Stephanie Misfit

The real question is, where did your skin texture go? Hopefully not to someone else, full perms, showing them as creator.

Yes, I was worried about it too. Luckily, it was just a scary demented vampire/zombie face so I'm not too worried! I really hope this is just an isolated thing, it could be bad

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Jezebella Desmoulins

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Join date: 4 Nov 2005

Posts: 561

10-21-2007 20:03

Could this be the result of two people doing uploads at exactly the same time, down to the millisecond?

Nika Talaj

now you see her ...

Join date: 2 Jan 2007

Posts: 5,449

10-21-2007 20:07

I looked for a recent Jira on this (just searched for the texture version), and wasn't able to find anything that looked exactly right. There are a few similar things. Haven't experienced it myself, so someone who has had it happen may want to report it.

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Okiphia Rayna

DemonEye Benefactor

Join date: 22 Sep 2007

Posts: 2,103

10-21-2007 21:12

From: Jezebella Desmoulins

Could this be the result of two people doing uploads at exactly the same time, down to the millisecond?

Its what happens when you take both the red and blue pills.

Coyote Momiji

Pintsized Plutonium

Join date: 13 Aug 2006

Posts: 715

10-22-2007 00:27

You know, I really could have used my pine tree instead of that piece of porn.

Wildefire Walcott

Heartbreaking

Join date: 8 Nov 2005

Posts: 2,156

10-22-2007 00:59

I'm wondering if their asset UUIDs aren't as unique as LL thought... and that would be megabad if they're getting overwritten. (I wonder if it would explain some of the missing inventory problems people have been having?)

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Fluf Fredriksson

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Join date: 8 Feb 2007

Posts: 248

10-22-2007 02:05

Ok guys & gals,
I've created an entry in the lovely JIRA for you all to go vote and add your experiences to:

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-759

Please do, or I'll look like a nutcase

Mimi - I quoted your original post for the problem description. Let me know if you hate that plan and I'll delete / amend the text.

Kidd Krasner

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Join date: 1 Jan 2007

Posts: 1,938

10-22-2007 05:38

From: Wildefire Walcott

I'm wondering if their asset UUIDs aren't as unique as LL thought... and that would be megabad if they're getting overwritten. (I wonder if it would explain some of the missing inventory problems people have been having?)

They're almost certainly using off-the-shelf UUID code, probably open source. It's highly unlikely that the problem is simply a UUID being generated without some other bug being involved. Although, with the size of their network, I do wonder if they've done the math about how many UUIDs they generate world-wide every minute.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UUID if you're interested in the numbers.

Michael Bigwig

~VRML Aficionado~

Join date: 5 Dec 2005

Posts: 2,181

10-22-2007 05:47

Muuhahahahahhaah.

Boo!

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Kitty Barnett

Registered User

Join date: 10 May 2006

Posts: 5,586

10-22-2007 06:09

From: Kidd Krasner

They're almost certainly using off-the-shelf UUID code, probably open source.

That would make too much sense

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(Quoted from the LSL wiki)

From: someone

LL does not follow the official specification; some permanent description data can be proven to exist on the third section of numbers.

Sae Luan

Hardcore 4the Headstrong

Join date: 6 Feb 2006

Posts: 841

10-22-2007 08:57

Haven't had that happen YET, but I am dealing with my textures just vanishing from my inventory for good regardless of the state of my cache. I'm really sick if that sh*t.

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Julia Hathor

Child Of Nature

Join date: 7 Feb 2005

Posts: 172

10-22-2007 08:59

Yikes, this is horrible!

Running to vote now!

Damien Fate

Goofy designer

Join date: 6 Nov 2003

Posts: 634

10-23-2007 21:07

Happened to me earlier today, uploading a set of numbers in a bulk upload, 1 to 15.

Number 6 was a TV screen - how strange!

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Miles Beck

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Join date: 20 Mar 2007

Posts: 537

10-23-2007 23:03

SL Blog now says it's fixed:

"Over the past few days, we’ve had several reports of texture uploads resulting in the wrong textures being uploaded to the residents inventory. You can find the according issue here in our http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-759

While we rolled out a fix for this tonight, one of our scripts failed, resulting in an about 30 minutes long unavailability of texture uploads.

Both issues are resolved."

Uhm, Weird Happening?
Mimi Coral Meow Join date: 22 May 2004 Posts: 257	10-21-2007 15:12 I was just uploading textures in world and one of them was supposed to be a face skin..but it was some random snapshot of people I have never seen before. I checked my file on my computer and it's definitely not that snapshot, so what does that mean? How odd is that? _____________________ Cupcakes! By Mimi Coral and Rosemary Galbraith Le Zoo (72, 163, 22)
Talon DeCuir Angel Join date: 19 May 2007 Posts: 350	10-21-2007 15:15 The texture is haunted - how fitting for the Halloween season! Serious note: yes, totall weird.
Kitty Barnett Registered User Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 5,586	10-21-2007 15:16 http://www.secondlifeinsider.com/2007/10/18/lost-and-found-asset-server-gives-wrong-snapshot/ Not an isolated incident it seems . If the asset server is handing out duplicate UUIDs we're in trouble .
Altimar Edelweiss Lost in Space Join date: 13 Nov 2006 Posts: 70	10-21-2007 15:35 So thats where half my stuff went. _____________________ Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggy' while you search for a rock.
Stephanie Misfit Registered User Join date: 25 May 2006 Posts: 155	10-21-2007 16:59 The real question is, where did your skin texture go? Hopefully not to someone else, full perms, showing them as creator.
Tristin Mikazuki Sarah Palin ROCKS! Join date: 9 Oct 2006 Posts: 1,012	10-21-2007 17:01 I wonder if odd things are gona start happing with Linden transactions now...gawd that would suck... _____________________
Erin Talamasca Registered User Join date: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 617	10-21-2007 17:26 This happened to me while I was uploading vendor textures, 6 at a time. Third time round, one of them was bricks. Bricks?! I don't sell bricks?! Checked the file on my computer, fine. Checked the 'uploaded' file in SL - bricks. Tried it again and got my picture. L$10 on BRICKS, I ask you! EDIT: I have a nice full perms brick texture now if anyone wants i-waaaaaaait a minute this could be really bad O.o
Scott Tureaud market base? Join date: 7 Jun 2007 Posts: 224	10-21-2007 18:07 for the past two months I've had the same thing with objects. go to rezz one and end up with a different item.
Fluf Fredriksson Registered User Join date: 8 Feb 2007 Posts: 248	10-21-2007 18:29 I'm really really hoping one of you guys bothered to make a JIRA entry for this kind of thing??? If you did. Stick a link here so we can all vote for it to be "fixed internally" huh?
Genku Kumaki Registered User Join date: 26 Sep 2007 Posts: 29	10-21-2007 18:32 I'm not sure there is anything we can do about this sort of thing since the asset server is on their end. Also, has anyone been able to recreate this error? Not sure if these are requirements of a JIRA report, but it would probably be a good idea anyways.
Rusalka Writer Registered User Join date: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 314	10-21-2007 18:52 Same thing happened to me yesterday. I wanted one of my new sculpt texts, and got a picture of some avi in a ball gown. Not worth the L$10.
Mimi Coral Meow Join date: 22 May 2004 Posts: 257	10-21-2007 18:54 From: Stephanie Misfit The real question is, where did your skin texture go? Hopefully not to someone else, full perms, showing them as creator. Yes, I was worried about it too. Luckily, it was just a scary demented vampire/zombie face so I'm not too worried! I really hope this is just an isolated thing, it could be bad _____________________ Cupcakes! By Mimi Coral and Rosemary Galbraith Le Zoo (72, 163, 22)
Jezebella Desmoulins Registered User Join date: 4 Nov 2005 Posts: 561	10-21-2007 20:03 Could this be the result of two people doing uploads at exactly the same time, down to the millisecond?
Nika Talaj now you see her ... Join date: 2 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,449	10-21-2007 20:07 I looked for a recent Jira on this (just searched for the texture version), and wasn't able to find anything that looked exactly right. There are a few similar things. Haven't experienced it myself, so someone who has had it happen may want to report it. _____________________ . To contact forum folks, join the inworld group "The Forum Cartel". New residents with questions about SL more than welcome! We has parties! To contact forum scripters, join the inworld group "Scriptoratti" (thanks Void!). New scripter questions welcome!
Okiphia Rayna DemonEye Benefactor Join date: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,103	10-21-2007 21:12 From: Jezebella Desmoulins Could this be the result of two people doing uploads at exactly the same time, down to the millisecond? Its what happens when you take both the red and blue pills.
Coyote Momiji Pintsized Plutonium Join date: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 715	10-22-2007 00:27 You know, I really could have used my pine tree instead of that piece of porn.
Wildefire Walcott Heartbreaking Join date: 8 Nov 2005 Posts: 2,156	10-22-2007 00:59 I'm wondering if their asset UUIDs aren't as unique as LL thought... and that would be megabad if they're getting overwritten. (I wonder if it would explain some of the missing inventory problems people have been having?) _____________________ Desperation Isle Estates: Great prices, great neighbors, great service! http://desperationisle.blogspot.com/ New Desperation Isle: The prettiest BDSM Playground and Fetish Mall in SL! http://desperationisle.com/ Desperation Isle Productions: Skyboxes for lots (and budgets) of all sizes!
Fluf Fredriksson Registered User Join date: 8 Feb 2007 Posts: 248	10-22-2007 02:05 Ok guys & gals, I've created an entry in the lovely JIRA for you all to go vote and add your experiences to: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-759 Please do, or I'll look like a nutcase Mimi - I quoted your original post for the problem description. Let me know if you hate that plan and I'll delete / amend the text.
Kidd Krasner Registered User Join date: 1 Jan 2007 Posts: 1,938	10-22-2007 05:38 From: Wildefire Walcott I'm wondering if their asset UUIDs aren't as unique as LL thought... and that would be megabad if they're getting overwritten. (I wonder if it would explain some of the missing inventory problems people have been having?) They're almost certainly using off-the-shelf UUID code, probably open source. It's highly unlikely that the problem is simply a UUID being generated without some other bug being involved. Although, with the size of their network, I do wonder if they've done the math about how many UUIDs they generate world-wide every minute. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UUID if you're interested in the numbers.
Michael Bigwig ~VRML Aficionado~ Join date: 5 Dec 2005 Posts: 2,181	10-22-2007 05:47 Muuhahahahahhaah. Boo! _____________________ ~Michael Bigwig __________________________________________________Lead Designer, Glowbox Designs
Kitty Barnett Registered User Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 5,586	10-22-2007 06:09 From: Kidd Krasner They're almost certainly using off-the-shelf UUID code, probably open source. That would make too much sense . (Quoted from the LSL wiki) From: someone LL does not follow the official specification; some permanent description data can be proven to exist on the third section of numbers.
Sae Luan Hardcore 4the Headstrong Join date: 6 Feb 2006 Posts: 841	10-22-2007 08:57 Haven't had that happen YET, but I am dealing with my textures just vanishing from my inventory for good regardless of the state of my cache. I'm really sick if that sh*t. _____________________ Rave Nation Owner saeluan.blogspot.com I accept most custom work. IM in world for details. -
Julia Hathor Child Of Nature Join date: 7 Feb 2005 Posts: 172	10-22-2007 08:59 Yikes, this is horrible! Running to vote now!
Damien Fate Goofy designer Join date: 6 Nov 2003 Posts: 634	10-23-2007 21:07 Happened to me earlier today, uploading a set of numbers in a bulk upload, 1 to 15. Number 6 was a TV screen - how strange! _____________________ Mirada.smartHUD - The new way to control your avatar and the world around you - In Mirada, Hairspray (22,63,51) or find me in world! You want me to be Semi Serious? Well that's ok, I'm almost half semi serious 50% of the time.
Miles Beck MilesBeck.com Join date: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 537	10-23-2007 23:03 SL Blog now says it's fixed: "Over the past few days, we’ve had several reports of texture uploads resulting in the wrong textures being uploaded to the residents inventory. You can find the according issue here in our http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-759 While we rolled out a fix for this tonight, one of our scripts failed, resulting in an about 30 minutes long unavailability of texture uploads. Both issues are resolved."

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