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Ok to resell my anims in poseballs?

Hern Worsley
Registered User
Join date: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 122
11-24-2008 06:09
I think this person although its a rather cheap business is not breaking your terms. A poseball is a product its 1 prim and also requires a script . What if your animation was used in a simple 1 prim sculpted chair or bed its still the same as far as qauntifiable definition goes.

I dont condone what the person is doing if it was me id be very carefull about selling any work i do full perms as sadly we just cant rely on others to respect terms.

Why not make yer own poseballs and stop selling work full perms to all comers?
Id suggest that you still offer your work full perms to other creators to use in thier work but do it on a client by client basis.
What i mean by this is have people contact you first then you can discuss thier use and you can create individual Terms for each client and also create a list of who they are etc allowing you to check up on them if you felt the need.
Also people are far less likely to steal from you if you are personalised to them rather than an anonymous shop.
Create a poster and maybe a pick in your profile with info etc even a classified offering this service. Ive no idea how many you are selling currently and at what price or how this change may affect your sales but right now your handing your work to your competitors on a plate really.
Lear Cale
wordy bugger
Join date: 22 Aug 2007
Posts: 3,569
11-24-2008 12:53
From: Kornscope Komachi
What if I put this into my notecard?
Would it cover most things?


That makes it clear. I don't think the all-caps is necessary; and it's harder to read text in all-caps.

Btw, it's spelled "primitive". "Primative", if it were a word, would mean "relating to primates", e.g., an Archbishop or ape. :)
Marx Dudek
Lipstick Thespian
Join date: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 17
11-24-2008 15:42
From: Hern Worsley
I think this person although its a rather cheap business is not breaking your terms. A poseball is a product its 1 prim and also requires a script . What if your animation was used in a simple 1 prim sculpted chair or bed its still the same as far as qauntifiable definition goes.


I think if it is spelled out at the outset, it's fine. I understand that a poseball could technically be considered a piece of "furniture", but any content creator is within their rights to spell out their terms.

What's more important, really, is making sure that the person using the animations is setting the permissions correctly. All it takes is one set of errant "full-perm" poseballs.
Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
11-24-2008 16:17
From: Hern Worsley
[...]Id suggest that you still offer your work full perms to other creators to use in thier work but do it on a client by client basis.
What i mean by this is have people contact you first then you can discuss thier use and you can create individual Terms for each client and also create a list of who they are etc allowing you to check up on them if you felt the need.
Also people are far less likely to steal from you if you are personalised to them rather than an anonymous shop.
Create a poster and maybe a pick in your profile with info etc even a classified offering this service. Ive no idea how many you are selling currently and at what price or how this change may affect your sales but right now your handing your work to your competitors on a plate really.
This is all correct, but I'm not sure it's necessarily the best business approach. I'm thinking about Craig Altman. Certainly at this point he'd be full-time dealing with the full-perms side of his business if he didn't just have those red poseballs out there for anyone to buy. Granted, Craig's stuff is so good that people would be keeping his store more than busy pretty much no matter what he did, but I can't imagine that it hurts his business that furniture all over SL has animations with him showing as creator. And although I'm sure he'd have preferred that nobody ever let loose one of those full-perm animations, nor resold them in simple poseballs even with proper permissions, the fact is more people know about him because it happened, and certainly he gets more business for all his products because he makes some of them conveniently available as full-perm.

If one is really good, has a deep back inventory of other animations, and is interested in becoming really, really big, then being a convenient source of full-perm animations seems like a pretty good approach--even if some revenue is lost to "IP shrinkage."
Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
11-24-2008 20:19
well it would leave me wondering if our scripted pillows were a violation, so i would likely not purchase your anis.
i think i know what it is you dont want; i believe i understand the 'spirit' of your terms... but the way it is worded would put me off enough that i'd give them a miss.
fwiw, although i do find nomod anis annoying overall, the nature of furniture-foo allows us to title the ani's menu button anything we want. with that in mind id rather buy your ani's nomod than to buy them with the above overgeneralised terms.

we also deal with at least one animation maker that does require us to approach them and deal with them directly for their full perm anis rather than buying them in a shop or from a vendor. it does make me feel like they are more aware of us and our product and how we use the anis.
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Would it cover most things?
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