Oh is that so? How very dismissive of you...
An oversensitive gigolo?

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Max Herzog
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03-04-2008 12:58
Oh is that so? How very dismissive of you... An oversensitive gigolo? ![]() _____________________
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ConductorX Nieuport
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03-04-2008 13:09
No thought required. The male part of this particular trade isn't especially difficult to figure out. Men are easy to figure out... think of it this way: Inside a mans mind there are boxes. Lot's of boxes, very organized, labeled and and sorted. Each box is seperate from every other box. A man only opens one box at a time and works from that box. When the thought is complete that box is closed and put away. Then the next box is opened and processed. Inside a woman's mind, all the boxes are open all the time and they are all interconnected and firing all the time. A box is never closed. A box is related in some way to every other box. That is why a woman never forgets the most insignificant incident that ever happened even if it is 25 years ago. ADDED: Spending some quality time talking about life, seeing sights together, doing things that we both enjoy without guilt or recriminations means more to me than the ultimate release of tension. I can't get that from an escort service no matter how skilled she thinks is. Once the $$ leave the wallet it becomes a business transaction and nothing more. IMHO "CX" _____________________
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Brann Georgia
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03-04-2008 13:10
Oh is that so? How very dismissive of you... Well, Gummi, do present us with the male's point of view as regards the OP's original post or any of the side discussions that arose. Someone ought to. I mean, it's your two-fifty that you're investing in these lovely ladies - how dismissive of me not to sit here and puzzle how exactly you would prefer to spend those ten minutes before you're done over there. Text or voice? Considering the way things are changing, one of the great remaining mysteries, truly. . _____________________
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Oryx Tempel
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03-04-2008 13:12
Holy Glory!! Did you just say "glory hole?" _____________________
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Lindal Kidd
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03-04-2008 13:14
...I think hiding groups in order to do any specific thing is a form of lying. .... /me gasps in horror and blushes scarlet as she realizes what she has just said, and who she said it to. Love, I apologize most sincerely for that thoughtless remark. Please send Hate around to chain me to the wall, lash me until I bleed, and break a couple of major bones. You have my permission to watch and clap your hands in glee. I hasten to add that using alts to play truly different people is NOT lying. No more so than rolling up a new character for a roleplaying game, or acting in a play, or writing a new character for your novel. It's using an alt or an altered profile to do something that's a bit out of character *while still playing as yourself* that I feel funny about. From the outside, these two situations may look identical. They aren't, from the inside. _____________________
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Lindal Kidd
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03-04-2008 13:18
.... It's just kind of strong, I think, to equate this kind of separation with lying, when it is done ordinarily in RL without a second thought. An astute observation, Maddie. We DO do this in RL all the time. It still feels dishonest to me. On the other hand, sometimes too much honesty is a very bad thing. These questions always turn out to be a moral minefield. I've been blown up repeatedly. _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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03-04-2008 13:27
Did you just say "glory hole?" /Me whips off her pants and......uhm.......never mind. _____________________
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Love Hastings
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03-04-2008 13:30
Love, I apologize most sincerely for that thoughtless remark. Please send Hate around to chain me to the wall, lash me until I bleed, and break a couple of major bones. You have my permission to watch and clap your hands in glee. Where to begin? OK, first, I'll feign anger and sadness at your comment (although I didn't take any offense whatsoever). I will then completely fail to point out that it didn't even occur to me to take your opinion personally, and that I still don't take it personally. Second, I should point out that I don't run Hate anymore. It's fair to say that my "need" for Hate has gone away, and that Love is now the "whole package", as it were. Third, your place or mine? ![]() Fourth, I'm not interested in breaking major bones, or even lashing you until you bleed. Just until you've stopped begging for more... Fifth, wear your thigh-highs. Thong too if you like, but don't expect it to usable again. Finally, don't tell Lexxi. She might kill and eat you. ![]() Love. _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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03-04-2008 13:36
An astute observation, Maddie. We DO do this in RL all the time. It still feels dishonest to me. On the other hand, sometimes too much honesty is a very bad thing. These questions always turn out to be a moral minefield. I've been blown up repeatedly. We don't walk down the street in RL with our life story on flyers, handing them out to all we meet. We decide what to divulge to people. Same for SL. I have no problem with someone limiting what they want known publicly. If I get to know them, I am perfectly capable of asking what I need to know as time goes on. _____________________
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Gabriele Graves
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03-04-2008 13:36
My opinion is that there will always be a market for the immersive non-RL text-based sexual experience. A few points to think about: -
1) As some have pointed out a well crafted erotic paragraph can be very stimulating. If this was not the case then erotic books would have long since died out. 2) For some people its the avatar they find attractive initially, they have no idea how the RL person looks at first. What is the point of the sex worker avatar cavorting on a pole to attract customers if they look nothing like their RL self when they then move to webcam? 3) Some people might like being able to use the excuse that "it is all make believe and not really cheating" to try and get out of trouble if caught by a spouse engaging in such activities. Webcam and voice would be much harder to wriggle out from I think. 4) Roleplayers tend to like written text and good narrative - I speak from experience. The amount of guys (and girls) who's character tries to bed a person during roleplay is huge, this is even in roleplays that are not predominately about sex. Roleplays based mostly around sex are still very popular. Gor is a prime example (yes sorry had to mention it). _____________________
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Ricardo Harris
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03-04-2008 13:40
For better or worse, I'm me...and all the parts that go into me. I don't want to have to hide.... BRA-VOO!!! You just went up a notch on my book, Lindal. Surprised the hell outta me. |
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Cristalle Karami
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03-04-2008 13:41
3) Some people might like being able to use the excuse that "it is all make believe and not really cheating" to try and get out of trouble if caught by a spouse engaging in such activities. Webcam and voice would be much harder to wriggle out from I think. Ah, but your spouse can't surreptitiously start logging your webcam or voice sessions. Whereas when it's in text, you've been had, dead to rights. _____________________
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Damien1 Thorne
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03-04-2008 13:43
Inside a mans mind there are boxes. Lot's of boxes, very organized, labeled and and sorted. Each box is seperate from every other box. A man only opens one box at a time and works from that box. When the thought is complete that box is closed and put away. Then the next box is opened and processed. We're that complex? I think it is more like 3 boxes, labeled hungry, horney, and sleepy. ![]() |
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Gabriele Graves
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03-04-2008 13:48
Ah, but your spouse can't surreptitiously start logging your webcam or voice sessions. Whereas when it's in text, you've been had, dead to rights. Good point but will that be realised by the offender at the time? Some yes perhaps, some no ![]() _____________________
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Victorria Paine
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03-04-2008 13:54
I am just guessing, since it's not my thing either, that a straight guy looking to buy SL sex from an escort wants it to be from a rl woman with a sexy av. With voice being available now, every straight guy who wants sex is going to want it from a rl woman. Gay guys won't be going to the ladies for SL sex so that's a nonstarter. I'd like to think that lesbians/bisexual women that go to female escorts would prefer the person behind it being female. I don't think many people can really separate themselves that much to not care, unless they are just cheap (and I'm sure many are). Honestly if and to the extent I seek out an SL escort (and I can't honestly remember the last time I did), the RL gender of the person behind the AV is irrelevant. What's important to me is the quality of the text sex -- a working brain is much more important to me, in terms of SL sex, than a sultry voice or a grainy webcam video stream. If I seek out sex in SL, it's precisely because (1) it is text-based, which opens up many, many horizons of erotic creativity that are not as easily accessed using voice (that is, it is easier and more erotic to describe creative eroticism in text than it is using your voice) and (2) it is separated from my RL by a wall that I have no interest whatsoever in piercing in any way, shape or form. And I have never had any issues finding superb lovers in SL (when I have looked for them) due to my insistence on using text only, and on maintaining that SL/RL separation. Undoubtedly your characterization of the attraction of voice and webcams applies to many people -- in particular men, because men seem to me generally to be much, much, much more freaked out about the RL gender of their lovers than women are --- at least in my own highly anecdotal experience. It doesn't, however, apply to everyone, and there are quite a few of us who very much want to maintain the separation and prefer it that way. |
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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03-04-2008 13:59
escort webcams in sl, not so new
when I first joined SL almost 2 years ago, I did the same thing, many people did, and that was dance in a club. Never tried escorting not my cup of tea, but a guy I worked for as his estate manager and girl friday, wanted to open an escort business, so I did some research (this was about a year or so ago) and there was the offer of webcam escorts then, as well as voice (just sign up with skype) so that part is not new... at all _____________________
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Lindal Kidd
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03-04-2008 14:07
escort webcams in sl, not so new when I first joined SL almost 2 years ago, I did the same thing, many people did, and that was dance in a club. Never tried escorting not my cup of tea, but a guy I worked for as his estate manager and girl friday, wanted to open an escort business, so I did some research (this was about a year or so ago) and there was the offer of webcam escorts then, as well as voice (just sign up with skype) so that part is not new... at all True...but what's new is that I am seeing a lot more of it than I did just a few months ago. Anecdotal evidence, as Victorria puts it, but that's how it seems to me. _____________________
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Cristalle Karami
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03-04-2008 14:10
True...but what's new is that I am seeing a lot more of it than I did just a few months ago. Anecdotal evidence, as Victorria puts it, but that's how it seems to me. That may be the effect of Jenna Jameson's training. I don't know what Club Jenna is doing but it's possible that the girls they are cranking out are all now fully equipped to do the webcam and voice thing, making it more competitive. _____________________
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Yosef Okelly
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03-04-2008 14:24
/Love, I apologize most sincerely for that thoughtless remark. Please send Hate around to chain me to the wall, lash me until I bleed, and break a couple of major bones. You have my permission to watch and clap your hands in glee. Lindal, sweet Lindal. That is too harsh for someone so rare and wonderful to bare. Please, allow me to suffer the ordeal in your place. ((you don't think she sees through me, do you?)) |
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Lindal Kidd
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03-04-2008 14:39
Lindal, sweet Lindal. That is too harsh for someone so rare and wonderful to bare. Please, allow me to suffer the ordeal in your place. ((you don't think she sees through me, do you?)) Yoyo, EVERYONE sees through you. But you are just so sweet and so glib that we just don't care. Thank you for your lovely, generous offer and your sweet protectiveness. But I must suffer for my own transgressions. /me lifts chin valiantly and braces herself. I'm ready for my caning now, Ms. Hastings... ![]() _____________________
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Colette Meiji
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03-04-2008 16:23
3) Some people might like being able to use the excuse that "it is all make believe and not really cheating" to try and get out of trouble if caught by a spouse engaging in such activities. Webcam and voice would be Not to mention, people are far less likely to be overheard in their RL during a text based encounter ![]() |
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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03-04-2008 17:13
True...but what's new is that I am seeing a lot more of it than I did just a few months ago. Anecdotal evidence, as Victorria puts it, but that's how it seems to me. I am not seeing any maybe it is the places you are going to now, that tend to have more there being I do not visit places that have escorts or escort ads, I do not see any ads for any type of escorts so it very well just could be that you are finding them now, as apposed to not seeing them before I personally do not think it is any more widespread than it used to be *shrug* doesn't matter to me either way ![]() _____________________
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Jezabell Barbosa
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03-04-2008 18:54
That may be the effect of Jenna Jameson's training. I don't know what Club Jenna is doing but it's possible that the girls they are cranking out are all now fully equipped to do the webcam and voice thing, making it more competitive. Jenna Jameson's Island is now Excasty Island. It is not required that any of the employes (I am one of them) use voice. There will be seperate times and or areas for voice entertainment. Well so they tell me anyway. ![]() _____________________
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Angel Coral
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03-04-2008 19:15
Just from reading your posts on this and other subjects you should stay true to yourself as you have always done. I agree. In SL we are afforded the ability to stay true to ourselves. Since I'm provided a level of anonymity in SL and I don't face the public scrutiny of RL, I prefer to be very open about who and what I am. It's very refreshing to just be me. I wish my RL afforded me this same freedom. However, at the same time not every aspect of my RL life is pertinent or appropriate to every situation and I understand the necessity to compartmentalize my RL. In SL I just refuse to hide groups I'm in or the nature of my personality. I don't flaunt things that are more outré, but at the same time I'll not hide them either. By being myself, I've discovered kindred spirits that I otherwise might not have had the good fortune to meet. angel |
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Oryx Tempel
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03-04-2008 19:45
/Me whips off her pants and......uhm.......never mind. Probably for the best, in these circumstances... ![]() _____________________
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