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I'm a CopyBot'er?!?!?

Shayna Korobase
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12-23-2009 11:49
Today while visiting sim I was turned on to a page that made me laugh.

http://www.koinup.com/OriolusOliva/work/187557/

Apparently this person seems to think I am a copycat builder. At first I was outraged but then it made me laugh so I thought I'd share it with all of you.

So does this mean we can file DMCA's against ANYTHING that looks like something else? I better get started (kidding)

Sad... very sad.... and funny LOL
Imnotgoing Sideways
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12-23-2009 11:59
1) The boats don't really resemble each other at all, so, I can't tell which is a copy of what. (^_^)

2) IBTL. =^-^=
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http://slurl.com/secondlife/Ferguson/54/237/94
Amaranthim Talon
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12-23-2009 12:09
Shayna- if you want this looked at with out a lock- replace the link with a tiny url for example so that the avatar's name does not show- that will get the thread locked.
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Shayna Korobase
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12-23-2009 14:56
From: Amaranthim Talon
Shayna- if you want this looked at with out a lock- replace the link with a tiny url for example so that the avatar's name does not show- that will get the thread locked.


how do I do that?
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12-23-2009 15:04
From: Shayna Korobase
how do I do that?
Go here: http://www.tiny.cc/
enter your url and get a new one to replace the above with.
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Shayna Korobase
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12-23-2009 15:26
thank you
Sindy Tsure
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12-23-2009 15:30
/me looks at the link.
From: someone
Carrie Bradshaw: Icons of the decade
How Sex In the City's Carrie Bradshaw did as much to shift the culture around certain women's issues as real-life female groundbreakers..

Er..
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Innula Zenovka
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12-23-2009 15:43
From: Sindy Tsure
/me looks at the link.

Er..
try http://tinyurl.com/yatgmyr
Ciaran Laval
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12-23-2009 15:50
I'm a copybotter and I'm okay
I sleep all night and I work all day
I cut down trees, I skip and jump
I love to press wild flowers
I put on women's clothing
And hang around in bars
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12-23-2009 19:40
posting a name encoded in a public web address by the person in question is hardly a violation of "naming names", especially since the name wasn't being pointed out by the op... sheesh you people are paranoid.
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Sindy Tsure
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12-23-2009 20:29
From: Innula Zenovka

Ah.. That one makes a bit more sense. TY.
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Maxum Kingmaker
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12-24-2009 03:49
They both look like junk so why worry. Those arent uboats those are round tugboats.
Marianne Little
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12-24-2009 04:36
Some really cry "theft" too quick. It's like the first one who made a ponytail hairstyle should go around and AR all others who make ponytails.
Shayna Korobase
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12-24-2009 14:13
From: Maxum Kingmaker
They both look like junk so why worry. Those arent uboats those are round tugboats.


Hey I agree with you. I built it kind of in a rush and just for fun. The newer one is better but not much.... maybe I'll build an even better one.

From: Marianne Little

Posts: 560 Some really cry "theft" too quick. It's like the first one who made a ponytail hairstyle should go around and AR all others who make ponytails.


I agree... from surfing that persons pictures they think EVERYONE is out to copy them. Funny thing is... the stuff he claims is being copied.... are every day things like... light posts and old style record players. So Lame.
Lance Corrimal
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12-24-2009 14:43
From: Marianne Little
Some really cry "theft" too quick. It's like the first one who made a ponytail hairstyle should go around and AR all others who make ponytails.



Didn't you mean the first who made sex beds should go and AR everybody else who makes sex beds, AND he should sue LL as well?


... oh wait thats already happening.
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Leslie Trihey
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12-24-2009 16:52
Wait, don't most submarines look a like? o.O
Imnotgoing Sideways
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12-24-2009 19:28
From: Leslie Trihey
Wait, don't most submarines look a like? o.O
That's racist. =^-^=
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12-24-2009 21:07
Those subs dont really look alike at all other than the fact that they're both subs. I made a clock once, (twice actually), but the first one I made was based on one a friend had seen and showed me. I snapped some photos of it, went home, and rebuilt it manually, I copybotted nothing at all about, I simply made mine look like the one I had seen. The owner eventually saw it on XStreet (SLX back then), and IM'd me a private message on SLX complaining that I stole her design.

Big deal.

This goes on in SL and RL every day. Take cell phones for example. Motorola came out with the V3 Razr and every cell phone that followed was a super thin, metal cased cell phone. Even now, everyone's out there making touch screen, iPhone-like phones to catch up with Apple.

As long as you're not out there duplicating the work of others using copy-bot type techniques (and building something similar by hand based on viewing the build of another is NOT copybotting), then you're totally in the clear. Tell whoever is complaining to to wake up and smell the coffee, those builds look virtually nothing alike in texture or shape, and even if they looked identical, copyING is not copyBOTTING.
Sindy Tsure
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12-24-2009 22:00
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
That's racist. =^-^=

Yep. Profiling..

You know, when you make silly copybot claims, the terrorists win.
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12-25-2009 11:23
From: Johan Laurasia
Those subs dont really look alike at all other than the fact that they're both subs. .


I thought they were shoes...
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Shayna Korobase
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12-25-2009 13:45
From: Johan Laurasia
Those subs dont really look alike at all other than the fact that they're both subs. I made a clock once, (twice actually), but the first one I made was based on one a friend had seen and showed me. I snapped some photos of it, went home, and rebuilt it manually, I copybotted nothing at all about, I simply made mine look like the one I had seen. The owner eventually saw it on XStreet (SLX back then), and IM'd me a private message on SLX complaining that I stole her design.

Big deal.

This goes on in SL and RL every day. Take cell phones for example. Motorola came out with the V3 Razr and every cell phone that followed was a super thin, metal cased cell phone. Even now, everyone's out there making touch screen, iPhone-like phones to catch up with Apple.

As long as you're not out there duplicating the work of others using copy-bot type techniques (and building something similar by hand based on viewing the build of another is NOT copybotting), then you're totally in the clear. Tell whoever is complaining to to wake up and smell the coffee, those builds look virtually nothing alike in texture or shape, and even if they looked identical, copyING is not copyBOTTING.



You are right... the person who accused me is a big baby. Plain and simple. I was the second person in SL to build Cylon Centurion MK-II's. Shortly after someone else made one using a lot of my building techniques... then another person.... then another person. Then I was the first to build the Cylon Centurion model 0005 from the Razor series..... and soon after someone built theirs. I'm always updating my builds so in the end my builds are still my builds. If I see someone copy me "note for note" then I'll be upset.... but I dont mind someone being influenced by me. I don't scream copybot everytime I see something that looks like my stuff...LOL
Merlynn Draken
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12-25-2009 17:56
From: Johan Laurasia
copyING is not copyBOTTING.



it's still IP theft.
Argent Stonecutter
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12-25-2009 19:05
Whether copying is copyright violation depends on how close the copy is, what the intent was, and what kind of original work was present in the original. If you have two people making copies of the same public domain work (such as the appearance of a 60 year old submarine) then you have to get pretty damn close, down to details of construction, before any court in the land would support a claim of copyright violation.

I recall this particular blog came up in the forums before, and while it seems that there probably are some instances where the blogger's work was copied, he or she makes claims that are far far broader than can be supported.
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Elle Crescendo
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12-25-2009 21:11
I found that page a week or two ago and couldn't help it, I had to comment, some people are just to precious, inspiration is not the same as copying.
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12-25-2009 22:14
From: Merlynn Draken
it's still IP theft.

on the contrary, in the context Shayna was refering to, no IP theft occurs. there is no trademark nor patent infringement, and you can't copyright a style or a structure. in the sense that was being talked about even reverse engineering doesn't apply even if it could be covered by the limited provision of that. it's just as legal as knock off perfumes. otherwise apple would be out suing all the touchscreen phones similar to iPhones.
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