Non Region Owning Good Paying Customers of SL

Ok, this is probably something that's been stated time and time again or maybe not, but this forum is SO dense who the hell knows how to find it if it is!.

So here's my issue. It seems Region Owners are the only ones that LL pays any attention to. Well I'm glad these people donated $1,675 USD to LL, and continue to pay $295 USD a month, that's great, but me and alot of others, who don't want the headache of owning a region pay in hundreds if not thousands monthly into SL.

I think it's about time some respect is given to people who put money into this place wether they own a region or not, because I'm tired of being told I can't get help on a truly helpful level because I don't own a region.

So basically what you're saying is, we don't give a damn about the $690 USD you paid in last month, or the $720 USD the month before, and hell I'm probably up to $500 USD already this month! But because I don't own a sim, I'm basically given about the same rights to have issues fixed as the campers on my land who haven't had payment info for the mnths if even years they've been around.

LL flaunts these million or more USD bucks put into SL on a daily basis on the front of their webpage, and a big part of that is mine, as well as many many thousands of others. So region owners or not, if you can pull up my account and give me a $2,500 a month spending limit, you can sure as hell give me the customer service I deserve.

Because technically, if it wasn't for us paying your region owners, you sure as hell would noty have their money either. And the "third" party" excuse is bullshit. And frankly I'm tired of hearing it everytime I call with a complaint, question, or just need information. I pay about $400 USD a month into land costs, and that gets back to LL somehow, so don't tell me because I'm not paying your directly, uou aren't responsible. And if you want to sit there and deny responsibility, then you need to start cracking down on who you allow to be your "concierge" clients.

I'm sure I'm just blowing smoke, and who knows I might feel better in the end. But if I buy something from a grocery store, and it turns out to be laced with poison, it's not only the grocer's liability it's the MANUFACTURERS.

So take some of these millions you guys are making off of us and start taking care of ALL of your customers, not just your region owners, cause like I said before... your region owners are nothing without us. Land buyers, shop owners, service seekers, etc etc.

Again, I'm sure this is something that has been brought up before. And with all the new law suits and shit I'm seeing against LL on the web, maybe you'll step up and handle this like professionals. Hire a few $10 USD an hour employees and get these issues handled.

And while you're at it, can you take 5 minutes and look at my abuse report that myself, and 9 others filed against a resident over 5 weeks ago?

Ok, so I'm done venting.. and for those of you who enjoy the drama of bashing every post made here, you can kiss my ass and enjoy doing what you wish to this one. I rarely read and probably won't ever see what you say anyhow, LOL. So rip apart all you wish.

They paid attention to me on numerous occasions and I don't own a region (Though I spend enough to lol) They tiered me back down when it wasn't my fault, they've taken immediate action on a couple ARs, they have helped with a land issue, they have claimed land I reported as no longer owned because the owning group was dead... they've paid attention

so we need NOT post to this thread?

edit: indicates my frustration of thread posts where the OP never returns

Kinda like the Lindens then, eh?

I'd rather like some concern to be given to those who are in SL for the artistic enjoyment of creating things for others - rather than just making money.

I'd love to own a big lump of land but can't afford it without resorting to commercial activity, which I have no interest in.

Broccoli

I'm a region owner. Nobody pays me to come on or use my region - and it gets a lot of use. What is it exactly you believe you are paying for besides tier costs and membership?

For that kind of money monthly... I can't figure it out either. It has to be either land rentals from someone, or several mistresses with very expensive shopping tastes.

Broccoli

yeah...& I forsee (yes I am a prophet) this thread getting closed soon... IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!!

Please don't have a stroke right here on the forum, we would have to call a virtual ambulance to take you to the virtual hospital and... well, that would be bad.

renting 40km of land on a private sim!? What the hell? Go mainland.. its cheaper by far!

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I have had no problem with the lindens, things get resolved when needed, and all that jazz

*shrug* and I by no means, own a sim (wish I did but I don't)

*blinks*

If I had that amount of money to spend on SL each month, I'd save up four months and buy my own region. Not only do you get more land for less money, but also total control over what happens there and who can get in.

Broccoli

I've spent 800 this month... but now i backing off.. I would save up by I don't have the patience lol

I can not imagine spending 800 a month in SL, wow

IF I could afford to spend that much, I would do what broccoli said and save it up for a sim

wow 800 a month
I feel soooo poor.

Makes me wonder about the RL financial status of some ppl in SL (not specific people, just people over all)
some can afford islands that have no money coming in to pay for themselves, others like me are lucky to cover a 15 US a month tier



and save every linden to help make ends meet in RL

(yes every sale counts, sadly there are never enough sales though, I just wish I could figure out what people want, then supply it)

lol I'm broke.. but most of that was for initial land costs for me, as well as helping a couple neighbours buy land so I could take their plots =P..alos I keep 5k L$ on me at all times, and if I drop below I buy 5k more lol... so that doesn't help

i'm with you rhaorth. i know ppl that have multiple sims ... and just use them to play on.

it boggles my mind.

and someone on another thread the other day ... stated she could let her 5 sims lie fallow for a year and it wouldn't phase her. jeeeez.

honey anyone who can spend 800 dollars on a game and laugh about it, is not broke (or not broke for very long) hehe

yes it boggles my mind, I cringe when I was spending 10 dollars for lindens, now I do not buy lindens only sell them when I have enough to sell

sadly that is few and far between

the only thing that keeps me going is my love of the platform/game/whatever you wish to call it

if I only knew ppl like that, that would be willing to let me use a sim for whatever I wanted, and not have to worry about them needing it.

yeah basically someone who would want to gift a sim to me

LOL

would be nice eh?

I can not imagine having that kind of money, have never been rich, ever, and am not rich now, by any means

*sigh*

I AM broke lol.. I laugh cause its true.. I have no jhob and have 5000 in the bank at the moment for life in general... and havent been able to get a job.. though I finally got my check for my first professional build in SL..2048m for 200 USD ^_^ so that will help... I went overboard though and will be cutting back to around 200 USD a max per month from now on. The 800 was me getting my land and starting up on a couple endeavours... and I should technically not spend any USD at all, but oh well.. I'll figure it out once I really run completely out of money



My love of SL is what causes me to spend USD on it.. I know what I can do, and have to invest to do it ^_^

I have a premium membership, own no land, get my stipend on time, spend an average of $46 US each month (yeah on stuff), make between $200-$300 (it's increasing all the time) US a month in SL making sculpties, get shot at by noob greifers from time to time (even got killed once), and I have around fifteen lovers in SL, and you dont see me complaining.

WAIT!!! I want to complain about something....hell, never mind, I changed my mind.

Well since the topic was brought up....I have to say I disagree strongly. I and other region owners - particularly region owners who open up their sim or sims for others to play on without profit, should indeed receive preferential treatment. I pay Linden Labs my membership, and my tier for two sims which is about $500 U.S. a month. Not to mention the costs I paid initially to bring the estates online which totals about $2800 U.S.. I make some money, and sometimes it's enough to pay my tiers, through my business. My business is creating content and building sims for other people. Once in awhile, people who see fit will make a donation to my expenses....L$1, L$20...believe me, it doesn't pay the bills. And once in a giant blue moon, I'll get a very sweet donation of L$5k or even L$10k...but again, it doesn't pay the bills. AND on my sims, I and my partner host contests, events, tournaments, etc. that we pay the prize money for. Nobody else...it's us. And while I have a partner...we pay for our own sims (he has one, I have two). We do not pay for each others.

My sims keep people interested in SL (they're roleplay sims). The more people are interested, the more they stay and upgrade to Premium accounts. The more people upgrade, the more likely it is they'll invest in land which means a tier payment to Linden Labs. Until eventually, they grow up and buy a sim of their own thus ensuring the cycle continues. I and people like me are what keep Second Life going. The people who put more into it than they get out of it. The club owners who shell out their own money, the estate owners who fret for months over building the perfect sim then fret more over getting people to visit it. The people who have a genuine desire and interest in offering creative, interesting things to do and see for people in Second Life. Linden Labs doesn't pay us to do that...they should! But they don't.

There is this really interesting feature your computer has. It's an off button. Nobody forces anybody to log onto Second Life. If you don't like the food you order at a restaurant, you send it back don't you? If you don't like what Second Life has to offer....log off and stop complaining. Unless you have started to contribute to what makes Second Life such a fascinating and addiciting place for so many people, don't even suggest you should receive the same treatment as those of us who do.

Now there's my rant. Comment as you like - I'm a big girl, I can handle it.

only 15?
I would have expected much more than 15

heh

I am premium (pay yearly) 500 in stipend and work in SL make some extra cash that goes to RL expenses own land, 15 US tier costs (owned the same land for over a year)
do not buy lindens, and cash out what I can from SL

I do not have the spare cash to do it with

I woudl love to even be able to put 200 a month into SL, if I had that to spare I would be saving it, buy a sim, then use the 200 a month towards tier fees..

/me wonders if any of those fifteen are complaining.

for the record I am not complaining about second life

I am complaining about the fact I do not have the expendable income in RL to feed to SL

hehe

as for the customer support I have gotten from SL I have had no problem with it

Yeah, it would be nice, wouldn't it?

I'm extremely grateful to have as much land as I do to play on! (About 1/2 sim.)

coco

Edit: Well, I mean, my shop is on that land, but still, I have enough prims to be able to stick something out and not already be over!

P.S. I would complain if I had to worry about 15 lovers to keep happy!