Voice modulator?
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Alazarin Mondrian
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11-15-2007 10:08
From: Marianne McCann Anyway - anyone know of a voice modulator dat works with a Mac? Mari Logic: http://www.zzounds.com/item--APLLOGICSTUDIO It's not cheap but it does the job also... MOTU Digital Performer: http://www.zzounds.com/item--MTUDPERFMAC Cubase: http://www.zzounds.com/item--STECUBASESX Cubase Studio: http://www.zzounds.com/item--STECUBSTU Ableton Live: http://www.zzounds.com/item--MDOLIVE You'll prolly find better deals elsewhere.
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Chosen Few
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11-15-2007 10:18
From: Colette Meiji Now, take that and expand it beyond voice. And that may help explain why some people prefer the virtual world concept vs. 3D web concept. And why they become alarmed by indications that preserving a virtual world feel isn't on the agenda. Collette, if you recall, you and I had a discussion on that topic a few weeks ago, and at that time, I did say some very similar things about it to what I've said here. I asked you and others to try to explain to me (like I was a six year old) your point of view on it, since at that time I really couldn't see where you were coming from. You did quite intelligently explain it, I thanked you for that, and I tried my best to reverberate it in my own words so you could tell me if I was getting it or not. I was under the impression that that discussion had gone very well. While I can appreciate that that subject is very important to you, and I'd be happy to discuss it more with you some time, I must tell you honestly that I find it a little troubling that you now seem to be implying our previous discussion didn't happen. I tried as hard as I possibly could then to understand your side of it. The end result of that was that while I still almost completely disagree with you on the subject itself, I do very much appreciate what you did to help me appreciate where you (and others) were coming from. I think I do have a pretty good understanding of your side of it now, or at least a much better understanding than I did before. Just please recognize and accept that understanding and agreement are two different things, and that just because I disagree with you doesn't mean automatically I have to think think you're wrong. Both sides can be equally right. Nobody needs to be wrong on this. I hope that that sentiment can make sense to you. Anyway, I don't want to hijack this thread to keep talking about that. Let's just let it drop here, and if you want to talk about it in a different thread, we can. Fair enough? (Oh, and before anyone says it, yes, I'm aware that most everybody's least favorite blogger did make a point of quoting me out of context from that other discussion, and that she used the extracted quotes as fodder to say some very hurtful lies about me. I chose to ignore it. I'd ask that everyone else do the same. She's not worth the effort. Thanks.)
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Colette Meiji
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11-15-2007 10:29
From: Chosen Few (stuff that is unnecessary drama) It applies in this context since the original plan for voice back when SL was "just" a virtual world was to include built in Voice Modulation. As per King Philip. I was simply pointing out the reasons are related for some. And they have to do with what you mentioned in that previous post. I don't even read Prok's (I'm guessing that who you are referring to) Blog. Don't even know the address. I wouldn't use voice modulation anyway. It just is related in the larger picture.
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Chosen Few
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11-15-2007 10:34
From: Michael Bigwig I [think] the software my buddy's studio runs is on a completely different level than Adobe Audition. It probably does. That doesn't mean Audition can't deliver professional quality results though. It can and does. Please try to keep in mind that Audition does as much in a little box than most entire studios could do just a few years ago. The fact that it might not be in the same league as Digital Performer* or Pro Tools doesn't change that. It's still a great peice of software, and it still absolutely can do pro quality recording, mixing, editing, and production. That's all I was trying to say. *Digital Performer is the MOTU software title I think you were trying to say, Michael.
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Chosen Few
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11-15-2007 10:50
From: Colette Meiji I was simply pointing out the reasons are related for some. And they have to do with what you mentioned in that previous post. Ok, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying. And for what it's worth, I wasn't trying to be "dramatic". Please don't make such assumptions. If you feel I misread you, then all you need to do is explain, which you did, and it's done with. I realize you dislike my writing style, but there's nothing I can do about that. Just as you won't disguise your aural voice, I won't disguise my disguise my written voice. It is what it is. Please don't read more into it than is actually there. Thanks. From: Colette Meiji I don't even read Prok's (I'm guessing that who you are referring to) Blog. Don't even know the address. Heh, neither did I until someone sent me a link. I won't be going back. In any case, it doesn't make any difference to me whether you read that blog or not. It didn't even occur to me to wonder. That ending comment wasn't aimed at you or anyone else in particular. It was exactly what I said it was, a request that everyone leave it alone. I figured that in any discussion about that other thread, there would be a chance that somebody might bring up some of the things from the blog, and as I have no desire to relive it, I thought it would be a good idea to ask that people refrain. That's all. Sorry if it was at all unclear. From: Colette Meiji I wouldn't use voice modulation anyway. It is just is related in the larger picture. I think I see your point about the larger picture. Again thanks for taking a little time to re-exlain.
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Michael Bigwig
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11-15-2007 11:08
What wonderful diplomacy--I commend you both. I have much to learn.
On a side note--I think my problem with diplomacy is that 1) it takes too damn long to get to the point and 2) it's a little too fake and wishy-washy.
This is in no way implying that either of you are fake...just to clarify. I mean diplomacy in the greater sense. I think you handled your explanations and discussion very well Chosen, and I could learn a few things.
ps. I bring this up, only because you guys know how I can be sometimes. Sorry to digress.
Cheers.
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Carli Dancer
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11-15-2007 11:36
Voice modulation is a good idea. It will allow all these nerdy guys still living at home in their mother's basements to actually sound like MEN.
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Lexxi Gynoid
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11-15-2007 11:39
I want the ability to sound like that squeaky woman from those Police Academy movies (this is when I am Sid) and James Earl Jones (when I am Lexxi). Or Barry White. That or the other way around. Or both. Depending on mood.
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Colette Meiji
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11-15-2007 11:41
From: Lexxi Gynoid I want the ability to sound like that squeaky woman from those Police Academy movies (this is when I am Sid) and James Earl Jones (when I am Lexxi). Or Barry White. That or the other way around. Or both. Depending on mood. *THIS* is CNN!
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Okiphia Rayna
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11-15-2007 11:41
From: Carli Dancer Voice modulation is a good idea. It will allow all these nerdy guys still living at home in their mother's basements to actually sound like MEN. .....actually.. most of the basement nerds I know have deepish voices....
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Lexxi Gynoid
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11-15-2007 11:42
From: Okiphia Rayna .....actually.. most of the basement nerds I know have deepish voices.... Eeek. No other response. Eeek. "most . . I know" . . eek
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Lexxi Gynoid
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11-15-2007 11:44
From: Colette Meiji *THIS* is CNN! No wait . . I want to sound like Mike Tyson or Michael Jackson as Sid.
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Princess Ivory
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11-15-2007 11:49
Hmmm... Somehow I had a feeling my very simple question would find its thread hijacked into a big philosophical discussion about the use of voice modulation or not. For the record, a project I am doing would be far more successful (in my opinion), if I were able to select a voice that was more appropriate for the physical appearance of my character, as she read aloud from a book. That's all. It's that simple. So other than Screaming Bees (which has very limited natural sounding female voices), does anyone have any suggestions for voice modulators with natural sounding female voices, that can be used "on the fly" and not in post-production? Don't debate whether I *should* use one or not, please just help me find one to use! Thanks  Princess Ivory
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Michael Bigwig
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11-15-2007 12:24
Princess--if you are looking for a high quality one...you are going to want something that is hardware, not just software... Things like this: http://www.spyassociates.com/professional-voice-transformer-p-1001.html?gclid=CLuuwc3W348CFReQGgodrA4p7ABe aware, the professional quality (only ones worth it) voice modulators are ALL going to be expensive. These hardware-based voice modulators are all 'on the fly.' --your mic plugs into a jack in the modulator, and another cord goes from the modulator to your computer--similar to an effects peddle for a musician. Pretty much ALL software-based modulators suck. *shrugs*
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Lindal Kidd
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11-15-2007 12:25
Princess, Have you checked out the possibility of text to speech voice synthesis? It sounds like it might be preferable, for what you're planning (reading from a book). Check out the product EVA on SLExchange. Also, check out the synthetic voices at http://www.cepstral.com . The total cost would be about $40, $10 for the EVA software and $30 for a licensed voice. CAUTION: EVA requires that you have a sound card with WAV OUT capability. Be sure your audio has this.
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Princess Ivory
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11-15-2007 12:28
From: Michael Bigwig Princess--if you are looking for a high quality one...you are going to want something that is hardware, not just software... Things like this: http://www.spyassociates.com/professional-voice-transformer-p-1001.html?gclid=CLuuwc3W348CFReQGgodrA4p7ABe aware, the professional quality (only ones worth it) voice modulators are ALL going to be expensive. These hardware-based voice modulators are all 'on the fly.' --your mic plugs into a jack in the modulator, and another cord goes from the modulator to your computer--similar to an effects peddle for a musician. Pretty much ALL software-based modulators suck. *shrugs* $587 USD? And that's not Lindens, guys! This project is not that important to warrant that! Thanks for the info. I wish the sofware programs weren't so bad. Princess Ivory
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Princess Ivory
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11-15-2007 12:29
From: Lindal Kidd Princess, Have you checked out the possibility of text to speech voice synthesis? It sounds like it might be preferable, for what you're planning (reading from a book). Check out the product EVA on SLExchange. Also, check out the synthetic voices at http://www.cepstral.com . The total cost would be about $40, $10 for the EVA software and $30 for a licensed voice. CAUTION: EVA requires that you have a sound card with WAV OUT capability. Be sure your audio has this. Thanks, Lindal. I will look into this. My sound card is a very new Nvidia, so I'm hoping it would have that capability. Princess Ivory
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Michael Bigwig
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11-15-2007 12:31
From: Princess Ivory $587 USD? And that's not Lindens, guys! This project is not that important to warrant that! Thanks for the info. I wish the sofware programs weren't so bad.
Princess Ivory Yes, I know. They aren't cheap...but believe you me, the differences are worlds apart.
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Princess Ivory
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11-15-2007 12:53
From: Lindal Kidd Princess, Have you checked out the possibility of text to speech voice synthesis? It sounds like it might be preferable, for what you're planning (reading from a book). Check out the product EVA on SLExchange. Also, check out the synthetic voices at http://www.cepstral.com . The total cost would be about $40, $10 for the EVA software and $30 for a licensed voice. CAUTION: EVA requires that you have a sound card with WAV OUT capability. Be sure your audio has this. Lindal, I don't see a product by that name on SLExchange. Is it an acronym? Should I be searching under the company name or something instead? SCRATCH THAT. FOUND IT. HAD TO USE PERIODS BETWEEN EACH LETTER. E.V.A. The voices on Cepstral's web site are great! Princess Ivory
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Rebecca Proudhon
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11-15-2007 12:59
From: Nina Stepford pro studios run protools on macs nearly exclusively. like it or not, thats the standard daw. Used to be the case but not for some time, especially in the past 2 years as so much new hardware came out. Now many use Sonar and other software, on the PC. This gives you a far wider selection of hardware to choose from and Sonar itself, has features you do not find in protools software plus the usability, hardware choices and power of a PC, you lose with a MAC. And now a days many use Protool on a PC anyway. Protools had gone the route of other types of Specialized, turn-key, hardware and software. like Retail (ex: Book store) hardware and software, that sold for ridiculous amounts of money. Later it all became replacable for far less money and having a turn key system was no longer real important. Many business are still stuck with old stuff and still paying it off.
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Colette Meiji
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11-15-2007 13:56
Might be cheaper to get someone to read the book for you aloud.
I hear people in SL work pretty dam cheap...
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