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Dana Hickman
Leather & Laceā¢
Join date: 10 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,515
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08-03-2009 20:16
From: RockAndRoll Michigan Remember conversation? Real people? A problem functioning in any public chat? I get all those condescending stereotypes for pointing out that your policy effectively discriminates against at least half of your guests? Wow, where's Des's personal win thread.. I think I just won SL As was stated, the idea is to attract people.. so they actually come back. Half the people that go to clubs don't go there to chit chat, they go there to "park", to listen, to tip, to shop, to play the sploders, enter events, hookup, flirt, and perv. That's 90% of what your club has to offer to the public and NONE of that requires open chat at all. Do you not think it's arrogant and narrow-minded to assume that someone's not having fun, or they're off doing something else when that 90%, which is everything BESIDES open chit chat, encompasses so much? Almost all of which can be done right there from the dance floor? You'd be penalizing people for USING the rest of the stuff you provide for them, merely because they're not interested enough to participate in someones discussion about TV/drama/politics/the weather/what one of the bimbos did on Thursday. I can appreciate you don't want drones there, that's fine, but there's no way that harsh approach can't be counter productive IMO. Especially once the word gets out about how the events there favor the chatty, instead of being based purely on a fair competition of skill and style (from your own words).
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RockAndRoll Michigan
Registered User
Join date: 23 Mar 2009
Posts: 589
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08-03-2009 21:08
From: Dana Hickman Especially once the word gets out about how the events there favor the chatty, instead of being based purely on a fair competition of skill and style (from your own words). Wrong assumption. Nowhere did I say that the winners would be voted on according to how much they say. This is about participation. If you come to be a drone, yeah, you're disqualified. If you actually come to participate you aren't. I know it sounds arrogant but there is absolutely no nice way to state it if the revisions above, and somebody else's translation, don't get the point across to you. Somebody who never says a word is a drone. Somebody who only knows or wants to trigger gestures is a drone. Somebody who actually types something now and then on a keyboard is not. It's that easy. Also regarding your statements about people wanting to enjoy the things that are being offered, the fact still remains that there's only one way to know they care. They actually act like they do. Which doesn't happen in a vacuum of silence. That's the point I'm trying to make, whether you think I'm being too brash or offensive or not.
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Ralektra Breda
Template Painter
Join date: 7 Apr 2008
Posts: 1,875
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08-04-2009 06:13
A club I used to go to ran the best contests that I have seen yet. 1. You had to be IN the contest or you couldn't vote. And to be in the contest, you had to be dressed according to the theme. Also, entries closed a half hour before voting started. (this put a stop to people tping their friends in to vote for them). 2. Club employees were ineligible. 3. You had to IM your vote to the host. And no one ever knew how many votes they got, so no one felt pressured to vote for a friend just because if the friend saw zero votes they would know that you didn't  To this day I haven't seen another contest I like as much as I liked the ones here and they had one every day.
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Sredni Eel
DJ Johnny
Join date: 22 Jan 2008
Posts: 414
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08-04-2009 08:25
I got two different compliments last night at my gig. One person said, "This is the friendliest club I've ever been to." and the other new person sent some of her friends over after she left, saying "The DJ is playing the best music on the grid."
My policy when I DJ is to engage people in conversation. Of course this is a two way street, so if you still stand there silent, it makes for a conversation where I'm talking to myself. But I'm determined to get people talking. I'll also banter and pun with my host and dancers, just to get them more involved. If I have to, I will make a fool of myself so others have a great time and want to come back.
All you have to do is find something the person is passionate about, and everyone else will jump in. There's more to the club experience than gesturbation and people begging for tips (which I also try not to do).*
And I do NOT allow excessive gesturing. Once or twice with two to three line gestures is not bad, but if you just continually HOOOOOO or BRRRUUUUUGGGAAA in my club, I will eject you. I also eject for spamming with vampire bites, spamming with unrelated groups, and being disruptive.
By the way, when I play on Monday nights, I don't have contests (unless I do a rare Stump the DJ night). People are there because they want to be there. After owning a club in the past and seeing people only show up to win, it put me off having contests, and I firmly believe that you can actually have a DJ come out and play music and still attract crowds.
* Once in a while if my tip jar is low or empty I will emote something like /me looks sadly at his nearly empty tip jar, then queues up the next in a long line of requests. People respond better to that than "PLEASE GIVE ME SOME LINDEN LOVIN'". God I hate that line with an unbridled passion.
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Melita Magic
On my own terms.
Join date: 5 Jun 2008
Posts: 2,253
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08-04-2009 09:34
From: Sredni Eel * Once in a while if my tip jar is low or empty I will emote something like /me looks sadly at his nearly empty tip jar, then queues up the next in a long line of requests. People respond better to that than "PLEASE GIVE ME SOME LINDEN LOVIN'". God I hate that line with an unbridled passion. Lol, me too. Especially if all the staff does is post "hooo" or "bruuuhaaa" (as you said) in the first place - they could be in the kitchen all night for all anyone knows. Or if the "DJ" is a radio stream. Repeated gestures saying "give our staff/Host Bambi some Linden Lovin" just feels like spam and if posted repeatedly, it's also past the point of a request into a demand.
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