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hmm... all those threats to children... say it isn't so..

MortVent Charron
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01-14-2009 10:38
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/14/technology/internet/14cyberweb.html?_r=1

and to quote the article
From: someone
Among the systems the technology board looked at included age verification technologies that try to authenticate the identities and ages of children and prevent adults from contacting them. But the board concluded that such systems “do not appear to offer substantial help in protecting minors from sexual solicitation.”
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01-14-2009 10:55
From: MortVent Charron
and to quote the article


Du-uhhhhh!
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01-14-2009 11:01
From: Marianne McCann
Du-uhhhhh!


Yep but this time it's the ones the politicians got to look into it telling them the systems they want don't work (and here is the kicker... the one that fought to get the group together... is saying the findings are bs)
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01-14-2009 11:19
Quote from article:

"The task force, led by the Berkman Center for Internet and Society at Harvard University, looked at scientific data on online sexual predators and found that children and teenagers were unlikely to be propositioned by adults online. In the cases that do exist, the report said, teenagers are typically willing participants and are already at risk because of poor home environments, substance abuse or other problems."


We have said this many times here.
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01-14-2009 11:43
From: LittleMe Jewell
Quote from article:

"The task force, led by the Berkman Center for Internet and Society at Harvard University, looked at scientific data on online sexual predators and found that children and teenagers were unlikely to be propositioned by adults online. In the cases that do exist, the report said, teenagers are typically willing participants and are already at risk because of poor home environments, substance abuse or other problems."


We have said this many times here.


But, see, people don't want to hear that. They want a quick fix...a technology, a regulation, an agency. Something as simple (and yet time-intensive) as good parenting and supervision is Obviously Wrong.
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01-14-2009 11:52
From: Lindal Kidd
But, see, people don't want to hear that. They want a quick fix...a technology, a regulation, an agency. Something as simple (and yet time-intensive) as good parenting and supervision is Obviously Wrong.



Even if all they are is a feel good measure that does nothing but hurt the innocent.

Yeah I'm a bit biased at times against stupid ideas based on the logical fallicy of 'for the children'
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01-14-2009 12:08
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01-14-2009 12:16
I love this part -- cuz "if it does not fit my agenda, it must be wrong":

"Not everyone was happy with the conclusions. Richard Blumenthal, the Connecticut attorney general, who has forcefully pursued the issue and helped to create the task force, said he disagreed with the report. Mr. Blumenthal said it “downplayed the predator threat,” relied on outdated research and failed to provide a specific plan for improving the safety of social networking."
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01-14-2009 12:33
all I can see is parents wanting the net to be a babysitter.
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01-14-2009 12:41
From: Toy LaFollette
all I can see is parents wanting the net to be a babysitter.



Which is like asking a paranoid delusional bi-polar schizophenic with multiple personalities wearing a raincoat and carrying a chainsaw to watch the kids...
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01-14-2009 12:43
From: MortVent Charron
Which is like asking a paranoid delusional bi-polar schizophenic with multiple personalities wearing a raincoat and carrying a chainsaw to watch the kids...




QFT :)
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01-14-2009 12:52
Gee I thought Comic Books, Rock and Roll and Television were what corrupted youth...

bad parents? naaaa......
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01-14-2009 13:05
From: Kyllie Wylie
Gee I thought Comic Books, Rock and Roll and Television were what corrupted youth...

bad parents? naaaa......


You get all those and more online now
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say it isn't so..
01-14-2009 13:10
It isn't so.
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01-14-2009 13:13
From: MortVent Charron
Which is like asking a paranoid delusional bi-polar schizophenic with multiple personalities wearing a raincoat and carrying a chainsaw to watch the kids...


Or a Congressman
Sling Trebuchet
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01-14-2009 13:15
Soooo...

If the chances of a minor being a minor in MySpace and FaceBook being the target of a paedophile are not as high as some would like to imagine...

The chances of a minor pretending to be an adult in SL being the target of a paedophile are ..... a bit less?
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01-14-2009 13:19
From: Sling Trebuchet
Soooo...

If the chances of a minor being a minor in MySpace and FaceBook being the target of a paedophile are not as high as some would like to imagine...

The chances of a minor pretending to be an adult in SL being the target of a paedophile are ..... a bit less?


Considering the userbase, that is a given.

Many more on the sites than in SL... besides WoW and the like are better hunting grounds since adults and children mix there without the hidden problems of a ssytem like SL (underage bans, and the problem of asking somoene if they are underage and getting reported for looking for it)
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01-14-2009 14:21
From: Sling Trebuchet
Soooo...

If the chances of a minor being a minor in MySpace and FaceBook being the target of a paedophile are not as high as some would like to imagine...

The chances of a minor pretending to be an adult in SL being the target of a paedophile are ..... a bit less?
That implies logical deduction.
:rolleyes:
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01-14-2009 14:29
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
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I don't need to ask, do I? :o
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01-14-2009 14:31
From: Brenda Connolly
Or a Congressman


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01-14-2009 15:21
From: Brenda Connolly
Or a Congresscritter
There fixed it for you :)
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01-14-2009 15:24
Why you hatin' on critters like that?
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01-14-2009 15:26
From: Brenda Connolly
Why you hatin' on critters like that?
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01-14-2009 15:27
*just shakes her head* Took 49 of them how long to figure out what it took us a few minutes to realize? Oh, right... we actually USE the internet.
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01-14-2009 15:29
From: Raudf Fox
*just shakes her head* Took 49 of them how long to figure out what it took us a few minutes to realize? Oh, right... we actually USE the internet.


You have to also consider: There are folks on these boards demanding the same stuff they found to be useless... and they actually use the net!
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