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Midas Bank and WSE

Zapod Zapotocky
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11-04-2007 04:01
Has anyone heard any news about the Midas Bank and it's problems relating to Hope Central and the WSE?
Broccoli Curry
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11-04-2007 04:13
Sounds like another Ginko-like-down-the-pan experience?

http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=27861&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

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11-04-2007 04:39
From: Broccoli Curry

I think we need SL banking regulation.
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11-04-2007 05:20
From: Strife Onizuka
I think we need SL banking regulation.


Are you volunteering Strife? :P
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11-04-2007 05:25
From: Strife Onizuka
I think we need SL banking regulation.


Yep, but to do that, we'd need identity verification.
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Zoha Boa
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11-04-2007 05:28
From: Strife Onizuka
I think we need SL banking regulation.

We do not bank regulation; only bank bans.

Put the money you earn here in SL on a RL bank or invest it by YOURSELF here in SL. That's the ONLY safe way.
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Raynor Hammerer
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11-04-2007 05:37
As so many others have already pointed out in so many othe threads, there ARE no banks in Second Life.

Every who deposits money in a "bank" is effectively giving a private person they hardly know (if at all) money without any guarantee of ever seeing anything of it again.

Since there is no regulation, and no central "bank" to bail out folding ones, "banks" are under no obligation to pay back anything.

I once used Ginko as the subject of class discussions in English lessons for managers at a private investment bank. They are still laughing their heads off.
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Colette Meiji
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11-04-2007 05:52
From: Strife Onizuka
I think we need SL banking regulation.


Yep we sure do

The kind of regulation that is spelled.

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Broccoli Curry
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11-04-2007 06:36
Am I missing something here?

Stupid, or greedy, or both, people, are those investing in SL banks with no guarantee, no regulation, and nothing except an empty promise from someone they've never met, never likely to meet, and are probably untraceable?

Just seems like a real no-brainer to me.

Now if you'll excuse me, I must reply to this email I got from the orphaned daughter of a Nigerian high ranking military official who was killed in a plane crash, who I need to send my bank details so I can help her in getting $10,000,000 out of the country.

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Raynor Hammerer
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11-04-2007 06:39
Hey, I got that email, too!

That's MY money!!!
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Colette Meiji
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11-04-2007 06:51
You may have already won 10 MILLION WTF bonds.
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11-04-2007 06:53
Spanking regulation!!
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Annabelle Babii
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11-04-2007 08:47
From: Sling Trebuchet
Spanking regulation!!


That's only really funny out loud, you know.
Lord Steadham
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11-04-2007 08:50
From: Broccoli Curry
Am I missing something here?

Stupid, or greedy, or both, people, are those investing in SL banks with no guarantee, no regulation, and nothing except an empty promise from someone they've never met, never likely to meet, and are probably untraceable?

Just seems like a real no-brainer to me.

Now if you'll excuse me, I must reply to this email I got from the orphaned daughter of a Nigerian high ranking military official who was killed in a plane crash, who I need to send my bank details so I can help her in getting $10,000,000 out of the country.

Broccoli
Hey, can I insult you the next time you make an error in judgement too? Or have you never made a mistake in your life?
Uvas Umarov
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11-04-2007 08:54
There is a sucker born every minute :)
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Broccoli Curry
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11-04-2007 09:04
From: Lord Steadham
Hey, can I insult you the next time you make an error in judgement too? Or have you never made a mistake in your life?


My big mistake was probably signing up to Second Life in the first place, it takes up far too much time and money, and I get too emotionally involved in things. Caring has always been a fault of mine.

Another mistake was picking this name... it's a nice dish but it does tend to be rather... um... reactive on the body.

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Argent Asbrink
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11-04-2007 09:10
From: Broccoli Curry
My big mistake was probably signing up to Second Life in the first place, it takes up far too much time and money, and I get too emotionally involved in things. Caring has always been a fault of mine.


Hear, hear! This place has an annoying way of getting under my skin, too...and then I kick start the old Norton Commando and realize what I've been missing.

From: Broccoli Curry
Another mistake was picking this name... it's a nice dish but it does tend to be rather... um... reactive on the body.
Broccoli


Thank god I resisted the impulse to choose Cabbage Curry as an avi name. *grin*
Lord Steadham
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11-04-2007 09:17
From: Broccoli Curry
My big mistake was probably signing up to Second Life in the first place, it takes up far too much time and money, and I get too emotionally involved in things. Caring has always been a fault of mine.

Another mistake was picking this name... it's a nice dish but it does tend to be rather... um... reactive on the body.

Broccoli
Well I won't call you stupid for making either of those mistakes. I try to have compassion for vegetables and other living creatures. Especially those who lost a lot of money to a con and don't need to be kicked when they are down. :)
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11-04-2007 10:12
I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want to use an idependent bank in SL when it has a good built-in banking system. I'd assume any sort of independent investment bank in SL is really no more than gambling! ....Gambling a) that you'll ever see any of the money again and b) if you do, there might be some interest paid as well!
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Adz Childs
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11-04-2007 10:39
The founding theory with respect to business regulation in SL is that credibility and reputation forces will cause businesses to self-regulate. (see knowledge base article, "Policy on Resident-Run L$ Financial Services and Securities". "Caveat Emptor... We hope that educated skepticism and buyer demand will lead to trusted institutions that can provide many of the benefits of a regulated system.";) I won't comment on the credibility of the libertarian economic theory here.
However, assuming this theory is what makes the SL business world turn, apparently the ceo of the WSE thinks the cash assets of all the deposits are worth more than the current and future value of the business. Effectively, he's cashing out whatever remains of his accumulated trust and business reputation. This is the end of the WSE.
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Colette Meiji
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11-04-2007 10:58
Fake banking and stock exchanges were a house of cards. Ginko was the card knocked over first.
Annabelle Babii
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11-04-2007 11:10
From: someone
"Midas Bank's shareholders' stock on the WSE was dissolved, thousands and thousands of Lindens in a Midas Bank WSE account were confiscated, and any and all Midas Bank holdings on the WSE were liquidated, seized, or converted into a fuzzy and nearly worthless financial unit called the WTF."


hee hee hee WTF....
Zapod Zapotocky
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Focusing on the wrong people
11-04-2007 12:46
From: Uvas Umarov
There is a sucker born every minute :)


Indeed it may have been rash for anyone to put any money into these "banks", or send money to the Nigerian scammers but purely focusing on the "suckers" who fall for these and not taking any action against the people out there who prey on the "suckers" is not going to stop this happening again and again and again. The Nigerian scammers are committing fraud, people who obtain money, or anything else of value ($L), from others and don't fulfill their end of the contract are also committing fraud.

If there was a shop online that took $L and didn't give their customers the goods, I'm sure you'd be up in arms against the shop owner not the poor customers.
Annabelle Babii
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11-04-2007 12:52
From: Zapod Zapotocky

If there was a shop online that took $L and didn't give their customers the goods, I'm sure you'd be up in arms against the shop owner not the poor customers.


I'll have to agree... people sign up for SL, wander about in-world, and see so much that looks like RL. Without frequenting the forums, how are they to know the banks are unregulated scams?
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11-04-2007 13:01
From: Conifer Dada
I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want to use an idependent bank in SL when it has a good built-in banking system.


What? Do you mean a built-in piggy bank? I know of no built-in banking system in SL.
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