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Pre-Nups in Paradise

Jig Chippewa
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02-06-2009 12:28
When I was finally persuaded by Hal to actually partner him, he and I made a pre-nup. It's a good idea - after all we both own land which we now share. There's money to consider and commitments in terms of tier etc. Belongings liek paintings. All those sorta things. Even acceptable behaviours cant creep in underteh radar (lovers etc) - although he is very liberal with me. Well, you know what I mean.

So, have you got a pre-nup with your sl partner? What is it? Should we have them? Any horror stories to relate?
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02-06-2009 12:46
hmm...I dont see the point? Land only ever is one persons, as are your belongings...sure you can share payment of a tier or jointly buy an object, but the bottom line is down to the one whos name is on the ownership of anything.

How would you enforce this prenup? I mean really...can you? People just "pop off" and never return, get an alt....etc...I dont see them feeling responsible to pay their share of a tier...or pay back money spent on items bought together...

Its all about trust...you either do or dont in SL..and when or if the split occurs....you just deal with it..usually alone.

No we dont have a pre-nup or post-nup or mid-nup...over the years we havent added up or kept tally of who paid for this or that...its seems...pointless to do so.
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02-06-2009 12:47
No prenups. If my partner and I split up my rl headaches will make sl look like child's play.

Any attorneys inworld? Never thought to check.
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Jig Chippewa
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02-06-2009 12:53
From: Alvaro Zapatero
No prenups. If my partner and I split up my rl headaches will make sl look like child's play.

Any attorneys inworld? Never thought to check.


I did have a nasty break-up yonks ago and was forced to buy my lovely land and house from my ex. Well my new partner did and then we shared much. I used much advice from a person who knows much about taht sorta thing.
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02-06-2009 12:54
From: Jig Chippewa

So, have you got a pre-nup with your sl partner? What is it? Should we have them? Any horror stories to relate?



No prenup...she would be so broke... I own nothing! :D
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Briana Dawson
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02-06-2009 12:58
A SL prenuptial is absolutely useless.

It sounds like you are talking about general 'agreements' people in relationships come to about the various aspects of their relationship. Like anything, if a relationship break up cannot be handled civilly then you are in for a dramatic time. Agree to part ways and split the things you have purchased like land by reselling and dividing the linden earned.

If you have a business together that complicates things.
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Ceka Cianci
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02-06-2009 13:18
well what is mine is mine and what's theirs is mine :D
it's the way of my world ;)
anyone wants into this account they are gonna have to make a deposit hahaha

ok enough ego from me..

all joking aside i think it's pretty well set up where things are divided anyways..
just make sure you buy what you want and they buy what they want when it comes to land and the rest is just gifts..
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02-06-2009 14:33
From: Jig Chippewa
When I was finally persuaded by Hal to actually partner him, he and I made a pre-nup. It's a good idea - after all we both own land which we now share. There's money to consider and commitments in terms of tier etc. Belongings liek paintings. All those sorta things. Even acceptable behaviours cant creep in underteh radar (lovers etc) - although he is very liberal with me. Well, you know what I mean.

So, have you got a pre-nup with your sl partner? What is it? Should we have them? Any horror stories to relate?
Planning for failure eh?

Pep (Realistic I suppose, in your case)
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Amity Slade
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02-06-2009 15:11
It's obviously not enforceable in any meaningful way. Between two otherwise honest people, though, it could prevent future disagreements. It provides a way for two people who want to stick to their agreements and their words to memorialize those things so there are no future disagreements or lapses in memory.
Jig Chippewa
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02-06-2009 15:34
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Planning for failure eh?

Pep (Realistic I suppose, in your case)


Ive been partnered to teh same man coming into the third year in sl. Older and wiser he is. If people really READ these forums you woulda known that by now. Crawl back under your rock Pep.
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02-06-2009 16:15
From: Jig Chippewa
When I was finally persuaded by Hal to actually partner him, he and I made a pre-nup. It's a good idea - after all we both own land which we now share. There's money to consider and commitments in terms of tier etc. Belongings liek paintings. All those sorta things. Even acceptable behaviours cant creep in underteh radar (lovers etc) - although he is very liberal with me. Well, you know what I mean.

So, have you got a pre-nup with your sl partner? What is it? Should we have them? Any horror stories to relate?


Out of curiosity, Jig. If things were to turn nasty, how do you plan to have it adhered to? I mean, if you partner is the type that would need a pre-nup when splitting, how can you enforce it? And if he's the type who would be trusted, why even have one?
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Jig Chippewa
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02-06-2009 16:18
From: Jerboa Haystack
Out of curiosity, Jig. If things were to turn nasty, how do you plan to have it adhered to? I mean, if you partner is the type that would need a pre-nup when splitting, how can you enforce it? And if he's the type who would be trusted, why even have one?


Simple. We are not strangers to each other. It is buusiness also. Love and business are etwo diffrent things.
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02-06-2009 16:25
From: Jig Chippewa
Simple. We are not strangers to each other. It is buusiness also. Love and business are etwo diffrent things.


No I mean, if you can trust him to be fair in a break-up, then why have a pre-nup at all?

If it's to protect your assets? How do you expect to enforce it?

An unenforcable contract is not really a contract at all.
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02-06-2009 16:35
From: Jerboa Haystack
No I mean, if you can trust him to be fair in a break-up, then why have a pre-nup at all?

If it's to protect your assets? How do you expect to enforce it?

An unenforcable contract is not really a contract at all.


I suppose somebody could manage to be fair to a contract even when they're well past the point of being able to be fair to a person.
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Jig Chippewa
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02-06-2009 17:01
yes I see what you mean. But in my reality I am so contracted because of what I do and have always been that it actually didnt feell "right" if I wasnt contracted with him - does that make sense? Obviously we have much real money tied up in sl so it makes sense to be aware of each other's commitment and trust. We have a sense of moral code. I trust him implicitly and he trusts me in the same way. It just helps to have it all written down even in a real document. That way we keep tabs on what we have.
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02-06-2009 18:01
From: Ceka Cianci
well what is mine is mine and what's theirs is mine :D
it's the way of my world ;)
anyone wants into this account they are gonna have to make a deposit hahaha


Girl, I do like you! lol

No prenup here...either in our initial SL relationship or eventual RL marriage!
DancesWithRobots Soyer
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02-06-2009 21:38
During my first few months in SL, I heard a horror story where someone told me they partnered someone else, who talked them into deeding their land and the objects on it into a group.

Which, later that night, they took possession of and sold.

"Stop me before I get me."
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02-06-2009 21:57
In re the deeding-to-group thing: It's really never a good sign when someone says "PROVE your love for me...."
Gabriele Graves
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02-07-2009 00:36
From: Jig Chippewa
When I was finally persuaded by Hal to actually partner him, he and I made a pre-nup. It's a good idea - after all we both own land which we now share. There's money to consider and commitments in terms of tier etc. Belongings liek paintings. All those sorta things. Even acceptable behaviours cant creep in underteh radar (lovers etc) - although he is very liberal with me. Well, you know what I mean.

So, have you got a pre-nup with your sl partner? What is it? Should we have them? Any horror stories to relate?
In what way exactly is this a good idea considering it is unenforceable in any kind of way?
I think the whole idea smacks of a lack of touch with reality personally.
Wulfric Chevalier
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02-07-2009 00:43
If I split with my SL partner/RL gf, I'd have more to worry about than who got our prims.
Piggie Paule
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02-07-2009 02:24
Well obviously the Female avatar will be able to keep the kids and the house, whilst the Male avatar has to go off and find another place to live whilst still paying her tier for her each month, oh, and af course some extra cash into her linden account so she can carry on shopping in the manner she was used to before.

Isn't that how it works?

;)
Gabriele Graves
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02-07-2009 02:45
From: Piggie Paule
Well obviously the Female avatar will be able to keep the kids and the house, whilst the Male avatar has to go off and find another place to live whilst still paying her tier for her each month, oh, and af course some extra cash into her linden account so she can carry on shopping in the manner she was used to before.

Isn't that how it works?

;)
No I think it goes that the person who owns the land eject/bans the other then says tough and LL says there is nothing we can do. In the group land scenario its a race for the first one to sell the land to themselves for L$0 and removing their tier and then says ejects/bans the other and says tough, with LL repeating the same line then too.
Cristalle Karami
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02-07-2009 02:48
When it comes to object ownership, the only person you can trust is a rl spouse.
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02-07-2009 02:54
From: Ponsonby Low
In re the deeding-to-group thing: It's really never a good sign when someone says "PROVE your love for me...."


Oh I think it is.

It's a big, rotating, flashing neon sign, with technicolor glow partical effects set to full bore, saying "Be Sensible and Leave Right Now!!!11!" in seventeen different languages.

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Jig Chippewa
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02-07-2009 03:12
From: Gabriele Graves
In what way exactly is this a good idea considering it is unenforceable in any kind of way?
I think the whole idea smacks of a lack of touch with reality personally.


You are absolutely right. That is why we live amongst furries. dragons, nine-foot women and forty-five year old children. Or isnt that a problem when it comes to a reality check?
Oh yes, we can fly also.
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