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A question for DJ's and club owners

Solar Legion
Darkness from Light
Join date: 9 Dec 2006
Posts: 434
11-18-2008 16:01
I think - in reference the the laws being mentioned - you meant to say "The laws that were passed due to the Government being browbeaten by greedy music production companies, would cause an Internet DJ to be forced to answer to the regulations put into place which prevent anyone but those given express permission by the record label - or those who could afford the fees - from being able to play the music the people want to hear and from being able to expose people to new music. even with permission given by the Artist, the recording company is the one who has final say in the matter."

There - fixed.

Love me or hate me .... The laws that have been passed are nothing more than corporate BS, a power play and a true show of greed. The artists do not see much money at all from CD or other, similar, sales: why do you think iTunes and others can offer a single track for 99 cents?
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Jade Angkarn
Always a Night Owl
Join date: 6 Oct 2006
Posts: 209
11-18-2008 20:47
From: Yngwie Krogstad
This thread brings up an interesting problem. What is a fair rate to pay? I am a DJ. I can make more money to stand around all day punching a button that says what you've asked for. "I'd like a Big Mac." OK, where's the button that says Big Mac? There it is. Push it. "Give me a large strawberry shake too." OK, let's see, um, large, there it is. Strawberry shake, right there. Cool. "And would you like fries with that sir?" "No thanks." "OK, your total is (reading the screen)...." Take the money, get your Big Mac, put it in a bag. Dispense premade strawberry shake material, I don't even have to make it. Done.

DJ'ing takes a large investment in music, time to put together a playlist, personality both in typed chat and on the mic, it's really a ton of work, far more difficult than the job I cited above, and I can't even get paid minimum wage? Something's very wrong here. If they actually enforce the royalty laws recently passed in the United States, there isn't a single DJ in the actual United States who can afford to work for less than $20 an hour. Thats US $, not L$. Are those of you reading this who would have cause to hire a DJ, or already have DJ's working for you, prepared to pay this much to adequately compensate them for their skill, the royalties they will be forced to pay, the $500 yearly license they'll have to pay before they even play a single song, and all the time they'll be required to spend handling the paperwork just to know (literally on a second-by-second basis) exactly who was listening to what song on their stream, and send all that in with their payments?

Somebody has to, or they'll all have no choice but to stop, that's too much to expect them to pay when they work for what is being paid in SL.


This argument just has no bearing in SL.

You can't compare SL to RL in this manner.

You could likewise ask, are most people prepared to pay a cover charge in SL to enter a club?? A virtual club where no drinks can be sold... no food can be bought... so unless one has a large mall, there is practically no recovery of costs?

No... people won't pay cover... and DJs won't be compensated in RL terms... that's just the way it is.
Yngwie Krogstad
Registered User
Join date: 7 Jun 2006
Posts: 233
11-19-2008 14:23
From: Jade Angkarn
This argument just has no bearing in SL.

You can't compare SL to RL in this manner.

You could likewise ask, are most people prepared to pay a cover charge in SL to enter a club?? A virtual club where no drinks can be sold... no food can be bought... so unless one has a large mall, there is practically no recovery of costs?

No... people won't pay cover... and DJs won't be compensated in RL terms... that's just the way it is.


Which is why, if they DO actually enforce the laws the recording industry has so graciously shoved down our throats, you're going to see a whole lot of US-based shoutcast streams go silent permanently. And that's the whole reason why I jumped into the fray in the first place, the expense of doing what we do is something nobody seems to think or care about.
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