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Pserendipity Daniels
Assume sarcasm as default
Join date: 21 Dec 2006
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10-22-2009 09:23
Understood, and thank you Treasure! It really IS a worthy thing Isabeal is trying to do. As for Pep . . . given the mood all of this has put me in, if he comes knocking at MY door, he isn't going to need to purchase a "battle" skin . . . Pep (Or was it a pentacle?) _____________________
Hypocrite lecteur, — mon semblable, — mon frère!
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Faithless Babii
Iam F.A.B
Join date: 5 Feb 2007
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10-22-2009 09:31
I will fall in with Brenda and others here in my personal respect and feelings of friendship for Scylla. After speaking in PM with Scylla yesterday, I followed the links she sent me, and read what is available on the topic, saw the pictures. Last night, I went over to Curio, and 2 other skin stores, that were mentioned in the 'skin comparison' thread yesterday, simply because I liked the looks of a couple of those skins shown. I personally only own Curio skins, and always have, so this does interest me. I stood and listened, in Curio store to the local chatter. The people looking at the new Battle Royale skin line were discussing it per their role play activities as combat skins. I also found a very, very similar skin in one of the other stores I visited last night. It also was billed as a combat skin. It also had running makeup. If I'd never seen this thread, or associations made, I never would have thought 'Domestic Abuse' or 'Raped' or 'Violence against Women' in particular when I saw these skins; I would have assumed they were created for role play. So for now, my personal jury is out and I look forward to reading more. I've read the brief comment Gala Phoenix made on Prok's blog and Scylla has spoken with her privately, I look forward to a more comprehensive statement from her in the future. Of course she does not 'have' to say a thing; I hope she does though. As a loyal customer for 2 years, exclusive to her skins, I really would like to hear what she has to say and will not make any stances that I may consider later, to be hasty at this point. very very well said..I too buy almost (a few freebies and one laqroki) only from Gala/curio...Youve said my thoughts perfectly...well done on a great statement. _____________________
I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas?
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Vance Adder
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Join date: 29 Jan 2009
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10-22-2009 10:02
It's a shame that a worthy case was mired by interjecting a controversial topic. Reminds me of how politians write legislation. Just saying, could have done without the reference to Gala and focused on the positive.
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Scylla Rhiadra
Gentle is Human
Join date: 11 Oct 2008
Posts: 4,427
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10-22-2009 10:08
It's a shame that a worthy case was mired by interjecting a controversial topic. Reminds me of how politians write legislation. Just saying, could have done without the reference to Gala and focused on the positive. You may be right, Vance. In hindsight, I would probably leave reference to the "furor" out. On the other hand, and in my own defence, I did MERELY reference it: I added no judgments or even indicated that I was involved. And, perhaps more to the point, Isabeal herself discusses it at some length in the post in which she announces this project, and to which I provided the link, giving it as a motivator for her idea in the first place. So, the reference was not really gratuitous. And it was certainly not intended to be inflammatory. _____________________
Scylla Rhiadra
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Nika Talaj
now you see her ...
Join date: 2 Jan 2007
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10-22-2009 10:33
Well, at least we agree on the merit of showing support for those who take action against domestic violence, Scylla!
 And I very much appreciate that we can have a civil discourse elucidating our disagreements about depictions and roleplay vs reality. I spoke in this case only because of the distressing new development of vendetta-like boycotting of one vendor among many who innocently offend your sensibilities.I feel sympathy for those in SL whose English skills do not enable them to directly contend with vociferous bloggers who attack them. I don't know Gala Phoenix, but I do know that Gala was one of the first stores I considered contacting way back in 2007 (I think) when I was rewriting notecards and promo material for businesses in exchange for merchandise. (Part of an experiment to see if it was possible to be a self-sustaining avatar without selling content. Yes, it was.). I mention this to caution you against inadvertently bullying someone who cannot effectively respond. I don't know that this is true of Gala, but in 2007 I evidently thought so. I've seen at least one business owner get so frustrated at their inability to verbally defend themselves that they left SL. As for Isabeal's effort, I don't make money in SL, so I avoid the $L conversion fees by doing anything more than token philanthropy in RL. I was very happy to learn this year of a RL website where I could contribute to an SL RFL team in $US. Let me suggest that Isabeal accept RL contributions in the name of an SL avatar as well. |
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Mickey Vandeverre
See you Inworld
Join date: 7 Dec 2006
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10-22-2009 10:56
I sent my thread post privately to Scylla because it wasn't pretty. In the past, I have accused Scylla of not genuinely caring about women, and after a lengthy and thoughtful discussion in the wee hours of the morning, I will change that opinion, and I truly believe that she genuinely cares, and will genuinely take action in a positive direction. (not that my opinion matters - but it does matter to me that I change it publicly)
Just wish you would work on the presentation, Scylla! And quit reading that crap that what's-his/her-name spews out. Total rubbish. If the presentation evokes a furor or passion in you, for whatever reason....whether it be the representation of the subject, or the concern for a creator who got pulled into a mess that was unwarranted....if you buckle up, and fold your arms, and stomp your foot.....total waste. Directing the passion toward an action that helps women and men, both, concerning violence and abuse....or directing toward an action that helps creators and SL participants express themselves freely and creatively without judgment and contempt....stomping a foot and buckling up doesn't cut it. |
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Brenda Connolly
Un United Avatar
Join date: 10 Jan 2007
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10-22-2009 10:59
If any of you recalls Scylla's debut here, you will know that diplomacy is not her greatest strength sometimes.
 That's why keep extra duct tape on hand. _____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
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Treasure Ballinger
Virtual Ability
Join date: 31 Dec 2007
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10-22-2009 11:05
If any of you recalls Scylla's debut here, you will know that diplomacy is not her greatest strength sometimes. That's why I leep extra duct tape on hand. /me passes Brenda the rope to tie her hands to her chair, or to anything that's not the keyboard. |
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Riseon Kosten
*Rizzy*
Join date: 27 Apr 2008
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10-22-2009 11:08
I wouldn't dare breach the chalk circle. Pep (Or was it a pentacle?) Careful Pep. >.< _____________________
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Scylla Rhiadra
Gentle is Human
Join date: 11 Oct 2008
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10-22-2009 12:00
You know, it's kind of cool that people here can be so supportive of me on a personal level, despite thinking that what I am doing is a load of ill-conceived codswallop.
 One of the reasons I stuck to this forum after a rather (*ahem*) rocky start here was that I recognized that there was a lot to be learned from sticking around. And I was right. I also realized that the input I was getting was leading me to modify and moderate some of my views. And I recognized that that was also a good thing. And then, finally came an understanding of how very fond and admiring I'd grown of so many of the people here. Which was perhaps the most important revelation of all. That said . . . Brenda and Treasure? Keep the duct tape handy. I'm sure to need it again. _____________________
Scylla Rhiadra
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Vance Adder
Registered User
Join date: 29 Jan 2009
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10-22-2009 12:12
You may be right, Vance. In hindsight, I would probably leave reference to the "furor" out. On the other hand, and in my own defence, I did MERELY reference it: I added no judgments or even indicated that I was involved. And, perhaps more to the point, Isabeal herself discusses it at some length in the post in which she announces this project, and to which I provided the link, giving it as a motivator for her idea in the first place. So, the reference was not really gratuitous. And it was certainly not intended to be inflammatory. I'm not blaming you. Just noting how the message could have been more effective. I'm sure we all are aware of how these forums work and how things we don't intend to be picked at can derail our main topics. |
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Brenda Connolly
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10-22-2009 12:13
I think a lot of us don't see what you are doing is codswallop, it is out of a genuine concern for people in RL who are somehow in peril and disenfranchised. It's more how you are doing it, where you are looking for the boogeymen that some of us question. I guess it's down to some philosphical differences on the subject and more importantly on what SL is and how we see it used. it also is colored by own lives and personal experiences. It's good that you've altered some of your opinions, it is also good that you have held firm to others. That's what learning is all about.
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Isabeal Jupiter
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Join date: 20 Jan 2009
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Circle of 30 Fundraiser
10-29-2009 10:31
Thank you, Scylla for posting the information about the Circle of 30 here. I found this thread after searching for information on organizing a charity event in SL. If anyone has information regarding who Choices should contact in Linden Labs to ensure legitimacy, please let me know.
I spoke at length with Choices about organizing this fundraiser and they are willing to share any information they have. They can take donations directly from their web site if anyone wishes to contribute RL $ rather than participating in the SL fundraiser. Their website is at http://choicescolumbus.org/. If anyone has any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. |
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Darkness Anubis
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Join date: 14 Jun 2004
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10-29-2009 17:49
In addition to the choices website might I make a humble suggestion.
I personally know the man who runs the local women's shelter here in my town and have talked at length to him about what is most often needed. Yes money is always gratefully accepted but as he put it they more often need the odd things folks need for daily living. Many of these women escape with nothing but the clothes on their backs and their kids. If you would prefer to support the spirit of this fundraiser more locally to you please consider the following Donating clean in good repair unused clothing new tooth brushes/paste toilet paper (no I am not kidding) diapers formula/bottles crayons/paper/coloring books Shampoos/soaps kids books your kids have grown out of (or do like I do hit the used bookstore) the list is endless of what they need give your local shelter a call _____________________
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Melita Magic
On my own terms.
Join date: 5 Jun 2008
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10-29-2009 18:12
^ Packages of (new, of course) undies and socks. ^
Also, hotel shampoo and soaps and trial size makeup kits are great. |