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Jesse Barnett

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05-22-2009 18:09

Now I will clarify my above statement. I would not mind if 99.9% of SL knew my name and some do have my RL contact info. I just don't want that other 0.1% to know.

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I (who is a she not a he) reserve the right to exercise selective comprehension of the OP's question at anytime.

From: someone

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Yummy Freelunch

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05-22-2009 18:11

Thats where a loaded gun comes in handy. And until they take away our rights, which im sure will come, I will use that right to arm my home.
SOOO..if any wacko's want to stalk me, they'll be looking down a barrel of a 45.

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Melita Magic

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05-22-2009 18:11

But that's the thing. Once it's out there it's out there and there is absolutely no controlling where it goes. Can't pre-identify that .01% and tell them not to listen.

Lalalala...fingers in ears...lalalala

Briana Dawson

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05-22-2009 20:29

From: Ephraim Kappler

Whatever their faults, I'd imagine Linden Labs are savvy enough to restrict access to that information to certain departments within the company. A careless breach of privacy could ruin them overnight.

Well, back in 04 when islands came out you had to CALL into SL and speak to Haney Linden directly to order your sim.

Believe me, after the initial rush of Island orders in 04, certain info was leaked about who had a male call into make their order and who was female.

Not cool.

I suspect LL is slightly more tight lipped now than then. But as long as Lindens have friends in world, nothing is safe.

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Feldspar Millgrove

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Join date: 16 Nov 2006

Posts: 372

05-23-2009 01:04

From: Brenda Connolly

You can AR them for violating the disclosure section of the TOS.

Telling someone their own name isn't "disclosing" anything to them. Disclosure would be telling someone else. (You might be able to AR them for some other reason, though.)

Ephraim Kappler

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Join date: 9 Jul 2007

Posts: 1,946

05-23-2009 03:36

From: Amity Slade

I ... have quite enough experience to know that any security can be breached by one person in a secure position making a momentarily lapse in judgment.

I guess it could happen. As far as I can be 'certain' only two individuals are aware of my identity in-world through PayPal transactions. It's a simple matter of good faith between us that they haven't compromised my privacy but my policy is to not give a damn in any case.

Even my alts can be easily traced back to this account because of the economic profile style, certain verbal clues I use in chat, and the fact that I declare them to anyone who already knows this account within a first or second meeting.

From: Briana Dawson

I suspect LL is slightly more tight lipped now ... But as long as Lindens have friends in world, nothing is safe.

I guess no one can ever be certain of absolute privacy: how many secrets trickle out of the Pentagon every day, I wonder?

At the end of the day, I won't say or do anything in-world, however questionable, that I'm not prepared to stand by in RL.

PS: Mornin' Alan! Feelin' better?

It's Bob, by th' way. Think I fergot ta mention that.

Melita Magic

On my own terms.

Join date: 5 Jun 2008

Posts: 2,253

05-23-2009 07:23

From: Feldspar Millgrove

Telling someone their own name isn't "disclosing" anything to them. Disclosure would be telling someone else. (You might be able to AR them for some other reason, though.)

It could be harassment: if the person hadn't told it to them themselves, it was obviously done to 'scare' them. Also whoever told THAT person is guilty if Disclosure.

Also the person in question is guilty of disclosure if anyone else could possibly have heard/noticed it.

But in my experience not much is done about that. I've seen someone announce RL details about someone else to an entire roomful of avatars, they were ARed and nothing happened. And it definitely was not okay with the person they disclosed on.

Argent Stonecutter

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05-23-2009 08:21

From: Lewis Luminos

And again if you've never actually given out your RL name, and neither have any of your friends, the best that will do is link your various online aliases. It can't find your RL details if they're not actually out there to begin with.

I guess you can do that, if you never have any intention of using your real name online. I've used my real name online since the '70s. I've got jobs from having my real name online, and on open source disks I've handed out to prospective employers in interviews. I don't treat the whole Internet as a role-playing environment, it's just part of my professional world to me, so I forget that some people have no real-life online presence... sorry for inadvertently causing confusion.

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Void Singer

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05-23-2009 08:59

if you link to a webdomain that you are the contact for that information is easy to get (which is why you want to have a service hold your domain)

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Tarina Sewell

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05-23-2009 09:18

From: Sirex Zenfold

I was involved in a chat with someone, when all of a sudden they started to use my real name. How do I protect myself from that? I was pretty upset..

What is wrong with people knowing your real name?

What are you hiding?

Hmm???????

IDK who knows mine, but no one ever asks.

Baloo Uriza

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05-23-2009 12:20

From: Sirex Zenfold

I was involved in a chat with someone, when all of a sudden they started to use my real name. How do I protect myself from that? I was pretty upset..

If you've ever used your avatar name and your email address in the same place, and your real name and your email address in another, and both are visible to Google...

Sling Trebuchet

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Join date: 20 Jan 2007

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05-23-2009 13:47

If anyone is worried about how exposed they might be on the Net, they should go looking for themselves.
Search for all email addresses, user IDs, etc.
Check for combinations. Check if there is any geographical trace. Check combinations to see if this ties things down more.

For the truly paranoid/careful, a good plan would be to research how the masters of online stalking operate.
These forums at their worst are a lovefest compared to what happens in Usenet. There are people whose primary objective in life is to utterly destroy other people - just for the hell of it. The masters of the art regularly demonstrate their talent in the course of Usenet flame wars.
There's masses of online tutorial on how to go about this.
Just off the top of my Google, here's a page with some advice and links to further advice.
http://www.searchlores.org/stalking.htm
A lot of it isn't applicable to the casual consumer, but there are some basic warnings there.
You also need geekiness to understand it fully.

From a consumer point of view you might find this one a bit eye-opening
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/158347/online_stalking_made_easy.html

Don't worry. Be careful.

Add:
Europeans are usually completely appalled when confronted with the evidence of how detailed information on USA residents is a saleable commodity.
Nervous US residents might like to look at sites like http://www.isearch.com/

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Lee Ponzu

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Join date: 28 Jun 2006

Posts: 1,770

05-24-2009 09:11

From: Sirex Zenfold

I was involved in a chat with someone, when all of a sudden they started to use my real name. How do I protect myself from that? I was pretty upset..

Sometime people drop little clues here and there. Based on the clues and some googling, you can figure out who a person is. This is impolite behavior on their part, but not necessarily hostile.

I suggest you simply tell this person, in a friendly way, that you are upset about being spied upon. If they seem hostile, file an Abuse Report.

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Someone found my real name
Jesse Barnett 500,000 scoville units Join date: 21 May 2006 Posts: 4,160	05-22-2009 18:09 Now I will clarify my above statement. I would not mind if 99.9% of SL knew my name and some do have my RL contact info. I just don't want that other 0.1% to know. _____________________ I (who is a she not a he) reserve the right to exercise selective comprehension of the OP's question at anytime. From: someone I am still around, just no longer here. See you across the aisle. Hope LL burns in hell for archiving this forum
Yummy Freelunch rides the short bus Join date: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,247	05-22-2009 18:11 Thats where a loaded gun comes in handy. And until they take away our rights, which im sure will come, I will use that right to arm my home. SOOO..if any wacko's want to stalk me, they'll be looking down a barrel of a 45. _____________________ [url="http://slurl.com/secondlife/BADKATZ/136/134/// VISIT INWORLD! Follow Badkatz Blog [url="http://badkatzclothing.blogspot.com/?zx=c39b88c950445e10
Melita Magic On my own terms. Join date: 5 Jun 2008 Posts: 2,253	05-22-2009 18:11 But that's the thing. Once it's out there it's out there and there is absolutely no controlling where it goes. Can't pre-identify that .01% and tell them not to listen. Lalalala...fingers in ears...lalalala
Briana Dawson Attach to Mouth Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,855	05-22-2009 20:29 From: Ephraim Kappler Whatever their faults, I'd imagine Linden Labs are savvy enough to restrict access to that information to certain departments within the company. A careless breach of privacy could ruin them overnight. Well, back in 04 when islands came out you had to CALL into SL and speak to Haney Linden directly to order your sim. Believe me, after the initial rush of Island orders in 04, certain info was leaked about who had a male call into make their order and who was female. Not cool. I suspect LL is slightly more tight lipped now than then. But as long as Lindens have friends in world, nothing is safe. _____________________ WooT ------------------------------ http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/
Feldspar Millgrove Registered User Join date: 16 Nov 2006 Posts: 372	05-23-2009 01:04 From: Brenda Connolly You can AR them for violating the disclosure section of the TOS. Telling someone their own name isn't "disclosing" anything to them. Disclosure would be telling someone else. (You might be able to AR them for some other reason, though.)
Ephraim Kappler Reprobate Join date: 9 Jul 2007 Posts: 1,946	05-23-2009 03:36 From: Amity Slade I ... have quite enough experience to know that any security can be breached by one person in a secure position making a momentarily lapse in judgment. I guess it could happen. As far as I can be 'certain' only two individuals are aware of my identity in-world through PayPal transactions. It's a simple matter of good faith between us that they haven't compromised my privacy but my policy is to not give a damn in any case. Even my alts can be easily traced back to this account because of the economic profile style, certain verbal clues I use in chat, and the fact that I declare them to anyone who already knows this account within a first or second meeting. From: Briana Dawson I suspect LL is slightly more tight lipped now ... But as long as Lindens have friends in world, nothing is safe. I guess no one can ever be certain of absolute privacy: how many secrets trickle out of the Pentagon every day, I wonder? At the end of the day, I won't say or do anything in-world, however questionable, that I'm not prepared to stand by in RL. PS: Mornin' Alan! Feelin' better? It's Bob, by th' way. Think I fergot ta mention that.
Melita Magic On my own terms. Join date: 5 Jun 2008 Posts: 2,253	05-23-2009 07:23 From: Feldspar Millgrove Telling someone their own name isn't "disclosing" anything to them. Disclosure would be telling someone else. (You might be able to AR them for some other reason, though.) It could be harassment: if the person hadn't told it to them themselves, it was obviously done to 'scare' them. Also whoever told THAT person is guilty if Disclosure. Also the person in question is guilty of disclosure if anyone else could possibly have heard/noticed it. But in my experience not much is done about that. I've seen someone announce RL details about someone else to an entire roomful of avatars, they were ARed and nothing happened. And it definitely was not okay with the person they disclosed on.
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	05-23-2009 08:21 From: Lewis Luminos And again if you've never actually given out your RL name, and neither have any of your friends, the best that will do is link your various online aliases. It can't find your RL details if they're not actually out there to begin with. I guess you can do that, if you never have any intention of using your real name online. I've used my real name online since the '70s. I've got jobs from having my real name online, and on open source disks I've handed out to prospective employers in interviews. I don't treat the whole Internet as a role-playing environment, it's just part of my professional world to me, so I forget that some people have no real-life online presence... sorry for inadvertently causing confusion. _____________________ Argent Stonecutter - http://globalcausalityviolation.blogspot.com/ "And now I'm going to show you something really cool." Skyhook Station - http://xrl.us/skyhook23 Coonspiracy Store - http://xrl.us/coonstore
Void Singer Int vSelf = Sing(void); Join date: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,973	05-23-2009 08:59 if you link to a webdomain that you are the contact for that information is easy to get (which is why you want to have a service hold your domain) _____________________ \| \| . "Cat-Like Typing Detected" \| . This post may contain errors in logic, spelling, and \| . grammar known to the SL populace to cause confusion \| \| - Please Use PHP tags when posting scripts/code, Thanks. \| - Can't See PHP or URL Tags Correctly? Check Out This Link... \| -
Tarina Sewell Just Browsing Thank you Join date: 20 Jul 2007 Posts: 2,180	05-23-2009 09:18 From: Sirex Zenfold I was involved in a chat with someone, when all of a sudden they started to use my real name. How do I protect myself from that? I was pretty upset.. What is wrong with people knowing your real name? What are you hiding? Hmm??????? IDK who knows mine, but no one ever asks.
Baloo Uriza Debian Linux Helper Join date: 19 Apr 2008 Posts: 895	05-23-2009 12:20 From: Sirex Zenfold I was involved in a chat with someone, when all of a sudden they started to use my real name. How do I protect myself from that? I was pretty upset.. If you've ever used your avatar name and your email address in the same place, and your real name and your email address in another, and both are visible to Google...
Sling Trebuchet Deleted User Join date: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,548	05-23-2009 13:47 If anyone is worried about how exposed they might be on the Net, they should go looking for themselves. Search for all email addresses, user IDs, etc. Check for combinations. Check if there is any geographical trace. Check combinations to see if this ties things down more. For the truly paranoid/careful, a good plan would be to research how the masters of online stalking operate. These forums at their worst are a lovefest compared to what happens in Usenet. There are people whose primary objective in life is to utterly destroy other people - just for the hell of it. The masters of the art regularly demonstrate their talent in the course of Usenet flame wars. There's masses of online tutorial on how to go about this. Just off the top of my Google, here's a page with some advice and links to further advice. http://www.searchlores.org/stalking.htm A lot of it isn't applicable to the casual consumer, but there are some basic warnings there. You also need geekiness to understand it fully. From a consumer point of view you might find this one a bit eye-opening http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/158347/online_stalking_made_easy.html Don't worry. Be careful. Add: Europeans are usually completely appalled when confronted with the evidence of how detailed information on USA residents is a saleable commodity. Nervous US residents might like to look at sites like http://www.isearch.com/ _____________________ Maggie: We give our residents a lot of tools, to build, create, and manage their lands and objects. That flexibility also requires people to exercise judgment about when things should be used. http://www.ace-exchange.com/home/story/BDVR/589
Lee Ponzu What Would Steve Do? Join date: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,770	05-24-2009 09:11 From: Sirex Zenfold I was involved in a chat with someone, when all of a sudden they started to use my real name. How do I protect myself from that? I was pretty upset.. Sometime people drop little clues here and there. Based on the clues and some googling, you can figure out who a person is. This is impolite behavior on their part, but not necessarily hostile. I suggest you simply tell this person, in a friendly way, that you are upset about being spied upon. If they seem hostile, file an Abuse Report. _____________________ So many monkeys, so little Shakespeare.

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