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What Is a Landbot?

JamesMichael Morane
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04-04-2008 13:55
I agree with Morgaine....very informative. But who was the evil genius that invented the concept of botting?
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Rockwell Ginsberg
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04-04-2008 14:15
From: Dagmar Heideman
Actually, this thread was very concise and informative for the first dozen or so posts. As for what reasonable people might do, one could argue that a reasonable person might at least wonder why one of the options for selling land is to sell to a specific individual or actually realize that it was to ensure that an intended targetted buyer was the only one who could accept the offer to sell the land. One could also argue that a reasonable and prudent person would select this option regardless of whether he or she was aware of the existence of landbots if his or her intention was to sell only to a specific individual.


You are dead on Dagmar. If you select the sell to anyone option, you are selling to anyone. You are responsible for the consequences.

The consequences are not fun though. Several times, I have found some reasonably good deals on land inworld and quickly jumped on them only to find that I had just bought land from a bot, and the land came with a pissed off resident who sold their land for L$1 to the bot. But since many of these bot operators won't return the land, I am stuck in an uncomfortable position with the resident. In both cases, the pissed off resident slowly realized the fault was their own, and sulked off, having lost considerable sums. I feel bad, but not bad enough to take their loss for them...
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Butch Adzebills
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04-04-2008 15:39
The presence of landbots can, at times be rather beneficial - they don't care what they buy, as long as it's cheap.

I had an odd shaped block with 5 or 6 ad farms in the middle of it, in an ugly looking sim. No one would buy it... it was hideous. Marked the land for sale L$1 below market value of the time and, within 15 minutes, a bot bought it.
Chris Norse
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04-04-2008 16:47
From: Butch Adzebills
The presence of landbots can, at times be rather beneficial - they don't care what they buy, as long as it's cheap.

I had an odd shaped block with 5 or 6 ad farms in the middle of it, in an ugly looking sim. No one would buy it... it was hideous. Marked the land for sale L$1 below market value of the time and, within 15 minutes, a bot bought it.


I have done this as well. Sometimes bots can be useful.
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Colette Meiji
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04-04-2008 16:49
From: Butch Adzebills
The presence of landbots can, at times be rather beneficial - they don't care what they buy, as long as it's cheap.

I had an odd shaped block with 5 or 6 ad farms in the middle of it, in an ugly looking sim. No one would buy it... it was hideous. Marked the land for sale L$1 below market value of the time and, within 15 minutes, a bot bought it.


Course if it weren't for landbots you'd have gotten that goofy looking parcel for dirt cheap in the first place.
Chris Norse
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04-04-2008 16:52
From: Colette Meiji
Course if it weren't for landbots you'd have gotten that goofy looking parcel for dirt cheap in the first place.



Well, mine was a strip as narrow as can be cut on the land edit tools and about 40m long. I had cut it off of my land when I sold. So that I could leave my tree line up bugging the hell out of an ass of a neighbor.
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Raymond Figtree
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Join date: 17 May 2006
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04-04-2008 17:33
From: Butch Adzebills
The presence of landbots can, at times be rather beneficial - they don't care what they buy, as long as it's cheap.

I had an odd shaped block with 5 or 6 ad farms in the middle of it, in an ugly looking sim. No one would buy it... it was hideous. Marked the land for sale L$1 below market value of the time and, within 15 minutes, a bot bought it.
A bot would have bought it instantly. Your land went to a human. You set it for sale low enough that a land broker willing to gamble on crap land bought it.

Regardless, you did what I always suggest people do. Here are my three basic rules for land sales:

Never set your land to "anyone" unless your really want anyone to be able to buy it. Even if the person you intend to sell it to is standing right next to you and there is no one else on the sim. Landbots are faster than humans.

Never abandon land.

Never set your land for less than .2 per meter below the lowest listing on the For Sale Mainland page. For example, if the first listing is selling for L$8.6, set yours for L$8.4 a meter. It will sell in minutes. In your case, 15 minutes.
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Tegg Bode
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04-04-2008 18:28
From: VonGklugelstein Alter
Really, can they circumvent the time that it takes for the Sale Transaction Page to load?

No but they don't have to load textures & prims or chat or anything else non relevant to land purchasing, some can't even walk, they have to TP from point to point.
Basically you are lucky to see them even rez, before they depart with your land deed.
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04-04-2008 18:28
From: Rockwell Ginsberg
I see no problem with land bots. The only problem is that I don't have one!

Yeah I often thought of getting a dozen or so, not that I buy land , but bots are so fashionable lately....................
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04-04-2008 18:33
From: VonGklugelstein Alter
So I am gathering that bots only capitalize on the stupidity of others. If people are that stupid to set a piece of land for sale for 1L to "anyone" they deserve it..

Easy test on whether it's stupidity, cut a 16m square out ofdead smack middle of your land and sell it to yourself a dozen times in a row at $1L, then you can be qualified to say whether it's just stupidity to stuff this up and not a worrying process. Yes come back and tell us from your heart you had complete confidence in the safety of your land. I know I near crapped myself after doing this 20 times in a session, I got complacent and found myself being "stupid"only a click away from losing it on one occassion.
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Dagmar Heideman
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04-04-2008 20:08
From: Tegg Bode
cut a 16m square out ofdead smack middle of your land and sell it to yourself a dozen times in a row at $1L, then you can be qualified to say whether it's just stupidity to stuff this up and not a worrying process. Yes come back and tell us from your heart you had complete confidence in the safety of your land. I know I near crapped myself after doing this 20 times in a session, I got complacent and found myself being "stupid"only a click away from losing it on one occassion.
Why would anyone do that? How is it comparable to actually selling to specific person at a specific price and what legitimate purpose could it serve? I have yet to read a thread about someone losing land to a landbot because they were spamming a transaction to a specific person over and over again like that. Could you provide a link to such a thread please? All of the threads I read were people that were just oblivious to the concept of using the select person to sell to option or were by their own admission just careless.
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04-04-2008 23:10
From: Dagmar Heideman
Why would anyone do that? How is it comparable to actually selling to specific person at a specific price and what legitimate purpose could it serve? I have yet to read a thread about someone losing land to a landbot because they were spamming a transaction to a specific person over and over again like that. Could you provide a link to such a thread please? All of the threads I read were people that were just oblivious to the concept of using the select person to sell to option or were by their own admission just careless.

Ok, try selling it to an alt or friend instead 20 times, if you want to be specific. You won't try it because you don't have confidence in it, depite how good you claim it is.
Because even if you are selling to yourself, shuffling lots of group parcels about, there is still plenty of room for error, the system dosn't inspire confidence under frequent usage, but people who use it regularly, so how well does it work for non regular users, who may be a lot less computer savvy.
Please provide evidence that the current system should never be improved?
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