Transferring Lindens between your first and second avatar
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Cael Merryman
Brain in Neutral
Join date: 5 Dec 2007
Posts: 380
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07-29-2008 12:58
From: LittleMe Jewell I have 4 premium accounts and they all have different email addresses -- although they all have the same PayPal information. I transfer the weekly stipend from the other 3 accounts to myself all the time. I have forgotten at times and therefore ended up transferring a few weeks worth at once - I think the largest I ever transferred was 1200 from each of the 3. I've been doing that for many months now and have not had any problems. Love to know how you got the same Paypal account attached to four accounts. I killed off two premium accounts and added this account, all with the same Paypal account. When I added another for Tombstone, they balked at the Paypal account, saying LL rules prevent using the same Paypal account for more than three avatars. Incredibly stupid, especially as there has never been any problems with the account. They started to explain why, using a variety of completely bogus reasons (speaking as a USA CPA that has worked in banking and EDI for many, many years and has a more than passing acquaintance about the technical and legal requirements of setting up payment systems for on-line services). This by the way really soured me on believing anything that customer service tells me at LL. And also, BTW, Paypal had no problem approving each connection - it is just on the LL side.
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LittleMe Jewell
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Join date: 8 Oct 2007
Posts: 11,319
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07-29-2008 13:32
From: Cael Merryman Love to know how you got the same Paypal account attached to four accounts. I killed off two premium accounts and added this account, all with the same Paypal account. When I added another for Tombstone, they balked at the Paypal account, saying LL rules prevent using the same Paypal account for more than three avatars. Incredibly stupid, especially as there has never been any problems with the account. They started to explain why, using a variety of completely bogus reasons (speaking as a USA CPA that has worked in banking and EDI for many, many years and has a more than passing acquaintance about the technical and legal requirements of setting up payment systems for on-line services). This by the way really soured me on believing anything that customer service tells me at LL. And also, BTW, Paypal had no problem approving each connection - it is just on the LL side. I did nothing special really. Originally, the main account was set up with payment info as a premium account. Then this account was added with the same payment into, but not premium. Then I added two other accounts - do not remember if I put the payment info on when I created those accounts or later, but I am pretty sure the info was there before I took this account and those two to premium status, which I did all at the same time.
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Trout Recreant
Public Enemy No. 1
Join date: 24 Jul 2007
Posts: 4,873
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07-29-2008 13:59
From: Beebo Brink Amount doesn't appear to be part of the trigger, at least not quite so directly. I'm pretty sure Cory was banned for paying testers L$1,000 each. And the ban is immediate, so you're safe if nothing happens within a few minutes.
The two cases I've seen described on the forums are Cory Edo paying out a relatively small sum to about a half-dozen people at once, and a woman who was banned after trading a sum back and forth with a friend as they bickered (amicably) about the exchange. In both those cases the amount was relatively modest. Add CartelTrustAccount Mumfuzz. He got beaned by the RiskAPI when I set him up as the bank account for the hangout project. A ton of people from here sent him money, which he used to purchase the land and related stuff. I think the big deal was the number of transfers, the amounts, and the fact that he was NPIOF. Talk about panic. We were right in the middle of purchasing land, had the deal all worked out and all of a sudden the bank gets shut down. I spent some quality time on hold with LL, then about an hour explaining what the deal was, and finally got him turned back on, but basically, what we were doing looked a little like a money laundering operation, and that was enough to trigger the alarms.
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Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
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07-29-2008 14:03
From: Xerxes Kingstop I think some of us are getting bogged down in a whole lot of SLurban legend. Unless you are an Alt, I am not sure you have been here long enough to know legend from actual accounts. Many of these anecdotal accounts relayed casually here happened to people some of us know and trust.
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Beebo Brink
Uppity Alt
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 574
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07-29-2008 16:01
From: Colette Meiji Many of these anecdotal accounts relayed casually here happened to people some of us know and trust. I remember how incredibly incensed Cory was when she posted about getting banned for paying the crew of people who had agreed to test her scripting. She was under deadline for an important inworld project, the banning occured on a Friday or Saturday, and there was no way she could log back in until at least Monday. She lost an entire weekend of work time, and several of the people she paid were also banned. Then, the very next weekend, it happened again, under the exact same circumstances. If I remember correctly, LL never fessed up to a money-laundering auto-ban, but it was pretty obvious that some kind of automated process was in place. Joshua spent several days steaming about an unexplained banning and posting daily reports on SC on how many hours he had spent on hold waiting for Customer Support (or getting a recorded message). After getting bounced around awhile, he finally was told that there is a requirement (which no one had ever heard of before) that accounts must have consistent contact information, even though all email addresses he used were valid. (He used them to sort mail for his alts and main.) Several other people on the SC forum had been banned, had no idea why, but took his advice to correct their contact info and they too were able to get back in SL. Who knows whether this rule is still being enforced. Who knows how they figured out some people had alt accounts that didn't match contact info. It's a guessing game, and chances are not all LL customer support reps even know anything about it anyway.
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Russ Kanno
Neko boy
Join date: 12 Nov 2006
Posts: 38
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07-29-2008 16:15
From: Colette Meiji I have actually been a bit leery about transferring money from Colette to Carli after that thread about Linden Transfers sending a red flag up in the Risk API. I would love to know what is a "safe" amount of Lindens you can transfer between alts - and what is risky territory I've transferred amounts up to L$35000 without any hassle. Both accounts have the same personal details and email address on file.
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Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
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07-29-2008 16:37
From: Beebo Brink I remember how incredibly incensed Cory was when she posted about getting banned for paying the crew of people who had agreed to test her scripting. She was under deadline for an important inworld project, the banning occured on a Friday or Saturday, and there was no way she could log back in until at least Monday. She lost an entire weekend of work time, and several of the people she paid were also banned.
Then, the very next weekend, it happened again, under the exact same circumstances. If I remember correctly, LL never fessed up to a money-laundering auto-ban, but it was pretty obvious that some kind of automated process was in place.
I remember this incident being relayed. I see no reason Cory wouldn't be seen as credible since she literally makes her living off of Second Life due to her job with Electric Sheep. And is thus is subjected to some public scrutiny. From: Beebo Brink
Joshua spent several days steaming about an unexplained banning and posting daily reports on SC on how many hours he had spent on hold waiting for Customer Support (or getting a recorded message). After getting bounced around awhile, he finally was told that there is a requirement (which no one had ever heard of before) that accounts must have consistent contact information, even though all email addresses he used were valid. (He used them to sort mail for his alts and main.)
I ran into this when my credit card expired. Instead of changing status to No payment info on file, I was suspended. Luckily it was a rather quick fix in my case.
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Holocluck Henly
Holographic Clucktor
Join date: 11 Apr 2008
Posts: 552
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07-29-2008 17:23
i dunno - my alts are friends. It's easy to pay one
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