Group Inviter?

Hey residents

To start promoting my stuff and my brand name I opened a group. Now I could go and spam thousands of people with invites but somhow I have the idea that won't be appreciated. So is there a way to get people easily into my group? Like a board what is clickable and auto-joins the group? The is a nice freebie for group members but when no one knows it even exists its hard for them to become member

Greetings and happy holidays,

Marcel

Unfortunately, there's no scripted way to send a group invitation, so automating this process would require some sort of bot. (I don't know one way or another if such a bot already exists, nor whether it might be available as a fee-per-subscriber service.) On the other hand, it's certainly possible to script something that would collect the identities of folks requesting update notification, and either send such updates without using groups, or supply the list for manual group invitations. (This is pretty easy to do with in-world data storage; a bit more involved to store the info on a hosted server somewhere on the net.)

Keep in mind that our 25-group limit is quickly reached, so many of your best customers will probably not be able to join a group. Also, given the current limitations of group management, it's just luck if you don't end up with a series of alts spamming your group with IMs. And group membership lists aren't directly available to a script, so for automated distribution of Inventory, you'd still need to maintain a subscriber list. So, you may want to consider carefully if a "group" is the right approach.

Be sure to offer subscribers a convenient way to remove themselves from whatever list to which they're added. (They can leave a group, but there's no way for a script to know they've done that.)

someone did have a bot for it (and may still) and offered it as a service down in products wanted forum.... bot has to be in the group and have invite permissions though

Crystal Gadgets do a nice board that allows people to click to join the group BUT most importantly, it also has a macro that lets you copy the list of names into a windows programme and then it runs the macro to automaticaly add them to the group. If you have a lot of group requests this really does save time.
Far as I know there is no way to have people added by click only.

A friend of mine created a bot that handles group invites. It is pretty neat and results in basically a one-click group invite. You click a prim sign ("click here to join group" and a moment later you get a group invite popup.

It'd be nicer if it was all done in LSL but at least it's possible, using a combination of tools.

-Atashi

As Qie said, the 25 group limit prevents a lot of people from joining stores until and unless they become one of thier favorite places to shop. Hard to be that when you frist open *Grins*

Instead, put out a Notecard Giver and a LandMark Giver. Have the LM in the Notecard. The reason for both is that some *raises hand* do not like a long list of LM's on the map and SL stupidly reads all LMs in inventory. IF they are in a Notecard, the map won't read them, but the people can still access the LM when they want. Be sure to title Both with the name of your store and a 1-2 word description of what it is. (Example: Nike - Shoes/Boots) [Credit to Nike as they were the first RL company I thought of lmao]

And good call on not spamming group invites. That's just a great way to get on a bunch of Mute lists lmao.

~Jessy

You should not recommend this kind of things, they only help to spam.
Don't you get tired of random TP's, random Friendship Offers and random group invites?

Only people who is interested should join a group, I have a very simple group joiner that when someone clicks on the prim it will send you a mail (to the mail address that you spec in the config) with name of the person who *wants* to join group.

That way your group members would be more reliable instead of having a bot that invite random people to join your group, sooner or later those people will leave the group or will spam you in group messages.

If you want that script contact me. It's very simple and free .

There is an update service that does not require inworld group membership for people to get updates. Indyra uses it, as does Last Call. There are more, I'm sure. It would be nice to get updates without needing to take up a group membership slot.

Cassini Creations makes an excellent GROUP INVITER. Its all automated and it works great!!

The owner Wietse Cassini has helped me out tremendously.

You set the script in object, when the person wanting an invite clicks the box, they get an immediate invite to group.

Just to clarify: the bots mentioned in the other responses were *not* to gather names for the group list, but to "close the loop" on automating the group invitations for voluntary members. These bots merely take the names (as if your script had emailed it to them, though usually they'll get the info from llHTTPRequest to a hosted PHP/MySQL server) and issue the same group invitations that the email recipient would otherwise have to do manually.

Last I checked in her store it was broken 'out of order' and not for sale.

/me runs to check lol

But there is. Ben Turas created it. I am using it in my role play sim Rygeon 2024. The name of the script is AutoGroupInviter. You must host the downloaded program on your own computer and attach it to a avatar. It works great. When people enter the sim they receive the blue box group invite or you can have them touch a prim to get invited.

How about the subscirbe-o-matic if it's just information you're sending? I don't think people even need to join an SL group to receive updates via that.

Thanks for all your suggestions!
The easy script which emails me when someone applies has been dropped to me already today, and I guess I will try that one as a start. The script from Cassini is way too expensive in my opinion, went there and it is for sale, but for 5k I will manage to handle the invites myself

A process which has to run on my computer I don't want, if it cant be scripted it's not an option for me.

The subscribe-o-matic seems the best option as it is quite friendly priced when you do not have too many members (and when you have many, paying more might become worthwile). The 14 days trial I will do for sure!

Greetings and thanks for your replies,

Marcel

Yes, but that 5K will save you LOTS of time. Plus, it sure is nice having a way to invite folks 24/7. I found that many newbies do not know you can just join groups, they think you need to be invited. It really depends on your target market is.

Thanks Lias for your kind words. Its always positive when you client promotes your product Since creating it I got a lot of positive feedback, and some remarks, which I addressed: It is now possible to pay in 5 weekly terms and I offer to run your inviter avatar for you if you don't want your computer to run 24/7 at a modest fee of US$5/1500L per month. (I already run two, and they don't require much processing, so can handle a lot more )

Please have a look at my classifieds, search for Tenochtitlan Group Inviter, come to Tenochtitlan, or click this link to visit my little shop:

As Qie said, there's no scripted way to do it without a bot. That program you have to download and host? That's a bot.

this is true. i've always wanted to have a way to auto add renters to a rental group. but it cannot be done without a bot.

Can someone please explain to me what's wrong with running a bot ? Isn't it the best thing to do when the function required isn't available in LSL and can't be build with existing LSL statements ?

I am running two automatic group inviters on my iMac right now, Idle they use 0.5% cpu. That's neglectable. Sure I am using some electricity 24/7, but (and I don't wanna start a discussion about that subject) its better for my iMac to be running 24/7 IMHO.

Am I overlooking something ?

kind regards

Oh, I for one don't think there's anything wrong with it at all. I do think it fairly well sucks that we have to resort to this approach, if for no other reasons than a practical concern for reliability and version-robustness inherent to any to-net-and-back communications.

I suppose if one had to come up with a "badness" it might be the potential for abuse, defeating an intentional limitation of LSL. For example, similar to recent llRequestPermissions abuse, griefers could have a field day if LSL actually could issue group invitations--at least until some elaborate constraint were placed on how often the same object could invite the same avatar, or something like that. By no means necessarily enabled by a particular bot implementation, of course.

I don't think anyone is saying the bot solution is bad, just that it has different requirements and is not a strictly lsl scripted method (as a difference not a drawback).

a strictly lsl solution would be nice, but very unlikely because of possible abuse (except with similar limitations to llMapDestination). it'd mean a running instance when a location is available, regardless of an av or bot being online...

for some having a bot program online 24/7 isn't an issue, for others it would be. it's just a matter of needs and how things work.

Well as for me a bot is not an option, plus I don't want a system running all day anyway. But that doesn't mean it's not a good solution for others though.

By the way, the Cassini solutoin would prove that it can be done with script But as said too expensive for my taste. The external list thing from subscribe-o-matic fits better. Of course I would love a lot of people with my brand name in their profile by means of a group, but the 25 group limit will indeed hold a lot of people back i'm affraid. So the external list had its benefits, and I do have a 2 week trial. If no one joins within that time I might have to reconsider the idea of a group/list anyway...

Greetings Marcel

actually when running, it to used a bot... the script was just a component in the chain of events.

people should note that if you don't want to run the bot yourself there are others that will... usually for a fee.

As a (admittedly late) response to this, if your group has open enrollment (meaning they can just click the Join button on the group window). You can script an object to open the group window by having it simply say the following line on touch:

"secondlife:///app/group/"+ groupUUID+"/about"

The link will open the group window and they can just click join. No bots or anything required and as you can see it's a very simple line of code.

Tremendous! Great idea Tiarnalalon I like this solution for when group enrollment is open.