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Detecting BOTS
EliteData Maximus
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03-15-2008 20:35
From: Allison Selene
What are the criteria that determine "success?" While I would love to keep out the bots, I would want to know a lot more about this service before I use it on my parcels.

the criteria in determining success is practice, programming and observation.
while the methods i know are not easily described and explained, they are even further not easy to understand.
to begin to understand how this really works, you have to understand all the functions in LIBSL and the source code for the viewer, how and what data is exchanged between the client and server.
think of SL as one giant website forum.
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Alicia Sautereau
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03-15-2008 20:41
so in other words, all general used stripped down clients now get auto banned

k, thanks
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03-15-2008 20:49
From: Jannae Karas
Who really gives a s**t ?


Bots are a fact of life on the web and virtual worlds. They are only going to become a bigger presence in meatspace. Its time to start coming to grips with them.
EliteData Maximus
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03-15-2008 21:59
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
A plain LL client run by sending it mouse and keyboard messages should be very hard to detect.

yes.
but using a macro on an SL client without timing data, it wont stay synchronized for long.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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03-15-2008 22:01
From: EliteData Maximus
yes.
but using a macro on an SL client without timing data, it wont stay synchronized for long.

Please explain your last remark.

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Incidentally, Mashable.com has a story about AI in SL, at http://mashable.com/2008/03/14/ai-second-life/


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An AI operating a standard client through insertion of keystroke and mouse messages might be very difficult for an automated bot detector to pick up on.
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Tegg Bode
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03-15-2008 22:05
Now what we really need is these bots to hunt down and kill the lag bots, a few thousand should keep the place clean :)
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03-15-2008 22:06
From: EliteData Maximus
what about AFK legitimate users ?

Well, if you go to sleep standing up in a mall for 2 hours you can't expect to be pampered :)
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Colette Meiji
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03-15-2008 22:07
From: Tegg Bode
Now what we really need is these bots to hunt down and kill the lag bots, a few thousand should keep the place clean :)


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From: Tegg Bode EDITED
Now what we really need is these bots to hunt down and kill the ***LAND and SPY*** bots, a few thousand should keep the place clean :)


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03-15-2008 22:17
From: Colette Meiji
==>fixed


And Trafficbots & Campbots :)
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03-15-2008 22:26
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
A plain LL client run by sending it mouse and keyboard messages should be very hard to detect.

Yes, but a pain to interact if the environment isn't static. That's where something like the RR viewer makes things easier, you can control it from in world.
SuezanneC Baskerville
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03-15-2008 22:51
"you can control it from in world."

If you mean a human controlling one client from another client that probably takes it out of the bot category.
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03-15-2008 23:22
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
"you can control it from in world."

If you mean a human controlling one client from another client that probably takes it out of the bot category.

It only means that nice familiar LSL can be used to do most of these things a little more simply without digging too far into the client.
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03-15-2008 23:30
From: Jannae Karas
Who really gives a s**t ?

You obviously do or you wouldn't have posted a comment :P
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03-15-2008 23:41
From: Viktoria Dovgal
It only means that nice familiar LSL can be used to do most of these things a little more simply without digging too far into the client.

Hmm.

How's that for a comment? :D
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Anya Ristow
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03-16-2008 09:22
I wonder if your thingy would detect my full-client bot as a bot, and my avatar parked at a club while I work in Photoshop not a bot.
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03-16-2008 11:56
if bots were outlawed only outlaws would run bots
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