Standards for Restrict Content: R vs NC-17 vs other

I created a poll concerning standards for restricted content, but for some reason it got moved to Feature Suggestions. I don't know if that's being done automatically for all polls or something else happened, since it's clearly not a feature suggestion.

In any event, the issue is that the recent blog post was inconsistent, since it combined the Adult Only game rating with the R movie rating, when it's clear that AO games are comparable to NC-17 movies, and R movies are comparable to M games. And since it's legal for minors to go to R movies, it would seem that NC-17 makes much more sense as a rating.

I believe the discussion belongs here, but the poll can still be found at /13/91/211552/1.html .

I thought the exact same thing when I read that blog post. Simple nudity is enough to earn a movie an R rating. My store has quite a bit of nudity on display since I sell skins, but I believe having it in a mature sim is sufficient. I have absolutely no plans to add further restrictions to my parcel. If there was graphic sexuality there then I would, but I think the earlier statements from LL about what constitutes content that should be flagged as restricted is not consistent with an R rating. That would be overly broad, and if they want to go that far they should just make all mature sims restricted. I wouldn't be at all happy about that but it would make more sense.

Maybe they will revisit the issue, but it seems lore likely that they do not want it to be public that they have NC-17 areas in SL. How many NC-17 movies are there? Producers seem to avoid it like the plague -- it seems like you are either R or X, very few NC-17s.

I think that R isnt simple nudity, but any nudity that has sexual overtones to it.

What does NC17 mean? I know what R is and X, but I'm not familiar with the NC17 term.

-Atashi

NC17 is the newer, kindler, gentler name for X

A lot of Soft Core Porn is considered NC17.

http://www.mpaa.org/FlmRat_Ratings.asp

(Wow, the MPAA has a hideous site.)

Well now that I know what NC-17 means I think that would be a better guideline (but not the only guideline). If kids can see an R movie, that should not constitute restricted.

No, it's not. Quoting from the ratings rules for R ratings:

Brief nudity requires PG, nudity that's more than brief but still not sexual can be PG-13.

This supports your decision, and that's my point.

And it gets used a lot less than you might expect, because the porn industry still prefers XXX, which doesn't actually mean anything, except in marketing terms.

Porno movies dont really get sent to the Ratings system do they? They basically already are aknowledging they are off the scale.



A movie like "Last Tango in Paris" which got an X rating would be NC 17 now.

Or Showgirls.

Remember, the ratings system is "Voluntary"..........

yeah ..

Of course none of the major Movie theaters will show your movie unless you get it rated.



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Its voluntary like this verification will eb voluntary.

The way its begining to sound unless all you want to play checkers with Mickey Mouse , your going to have to verify.

Yes, 1) the rating system is "Voluntary" and 2) out and out pornos, as opposed to the "adult thrillers" that show skin and try for R ratings, do normally not submit themselves for a rating unless they seem like pornos but are trying to insist that they are "artistic."

Newspapers (TV/radio/etc.) do not like accepting advertisement for X rated or NC 17 rated movies (with some exceptions); and movie theaters also are hesitant about showing NC 17 rated movies. A "No Rating" or NR movie actually has better luck getting into a movie theater than a NC 17 movie, though advertising it is still problematic. Though that NR movie is more likely to be found at a "art house" than a megaplex.

Oh, guess I had the wrong information. Could have sworn that I had seen NR movies in art house theaters.

I think they are

an art house theater isnt a Major Movie theater by the definition I was going on.

Major Movie theater = the giant 10$ a show magaplexes where you pay $20 for $5 worth of snacks and watch 20 previews before they start the movie.

Most of the art house theaters I have seen were government supported, so they didn't care about making money. If Mrs. Connelly sees a NR movie poster while taking lil Colette to see "Bambi 2: Payback for Momma", she is gonna cause a stink and give the theater bad publicity, something the corporate types hate.

Wow. 10 dollars? Wow. I have never seen $10 here, though I have heard that people pay something like that. Now $20 for $5 worth of snacks? Yes. 20 previews? yes, plus about 10 minutes of comericals before the previews.

By the way, when I say "art house theater" I mean one that is part of the normal chain but uses something like "Select" in its title, charges the same amount for theater tickets and for food, and shows "art"y movies. Most often foreign films with subtitles.

Yeah art theaters are different.

People going to those movies arent really worried about the ratings anyhow.

And 90% of kids would have to be dragged kicking and screaming to go see one - so kids trying to get into those movies is pretty rare. LOL

Ok, I guess I should not have used the term "art house." I just meant one of those that didn't show the major films, but instead showed the limited release, and or foreign films. Oddly, most have posters for the major films that are never shown there. And I have never seen a government supported one. Or for that matter, an independent one, all the ones I've seen have been connected to chains (separate theaters - separate locations, just using that chains name plus something like "Select".

In a world where the movies cost 10 Dollars.

When Popcorn is more precious than gold.

One Woman stands up and says "ENOUGH!"

Payback - this time its for Real!

Yes $10 is the standard for the chains Loes?Sony, AMC, Magic Johnson, some theatres in Manhattan Charge $12. Most chains however have bargain matinees, most shows before 5PM are $5 to $7.

Your Art House description is pretty accurate. The ones I frequent show a mix of classics, Cult favorites and foreign films. A few have turned the theatres into huge living rooms, with couches and armchairs and bar service. Most aren't government sponsored, although some do get NEA endowments.

I have noticed, though, that the previews before "art films" seem to contain a lot more information than previews before "major films." Oddly, Death at a Funeral had one of those long previews but, the film ended up different than I thought.

One of those - they gave away too much information in the trailer! moments, followed by seeing the film and realizing that they . . . hadn't.

Hey don't trivialize popcorn. Since most chains show all the same movies, I base what theatre to go to on the quality of the popcorn. I take popcorn VERY seriously.

I think the best movie popcorn is when you have some at home on the couch while watching the movie with someone you care about