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treto Priestly
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04-28-2009 15:12
Ok I'm confused by the sl gambling rules. I know slot machines are not allowed & some poker games but which ones? Like I've seen Jaded Kickers, Slingo, Devil May Care, & some others but how can I tell? Thanks for any help.
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Oryx Tempel
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04-28-2009 15:17
Gambling "per se" is not allowed in Second Life. In other words, customers are not allowed to put L$ into a machine, and receive L$ after an un-predetermined outcome.
Customers ARE allowed to play a machine without paying money into it. Customers ARE allowed to play "games of skill" (use your own definition here) with paying money into them. Your best bet is to check the SL Blog and do a search on "gambling definitions". |
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treto Priestly
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04-28-2009 16:23
Gambling "per se" is not allowed in Second Life. In other words, customers are not allowed to put L$ into a machine, and receive L$ after an un-predetermined outcome. Customers ARE allowed to play a machine without paying money into it. Customers ARE allowed to play "games of skill" (use your own definition here) with paying money into them. Your best bet is to check the SL Blog and do a search on "gambling definitions". well aren't slingo & jaded kickers games you can put $L into & receive $L from when you win & they are skill so to me it's really confused I've tried reading the blog I need it put in lamens terms basically. |
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Anya Ristow
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04-28-2009 16:46
For some reason, if a game is called "Zyngo" it magically becomes not gambling. You put lindens into it, mostly random stuff happens, and you may or may not (usually not) get lindens out of it. And somehow this is not gambling.
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Clarissa Lowell
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04-28-2009 16:48
None, although I sure can't see what "skill" is involved in "Sploder."
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Bree Giffen
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04-28-2009 20:46
If there were some sports games within SL you could bet on who would win.
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Shirley Marquez
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04-28-2009 22:15
Gambling games only get removed when somebody ARs them. Mostly Sploders at clubs aren't the sort of gambling that people were upset about, so nobody gets around to reporting them and they don't get removed. There are also some Sploders that aren't purely chance, but are instead based on some non-random thing -- like the last person to pay gets a big payout, or there is some sort of voting thing, or you actually have to click on the falling money to get it -- those are at least arguably legal.
There are some SL games that involve skill. The now rarely seen Tringo, for example; although the shapes are randomly determined, all the players get the same set of random shapes and it's the skill of the players using them that determines the winner. A poker system where you played against other avatars ought to be OK; poker has been declared a game of skill in many jurisdictions. (The once common video poker, however, is really just a fancy form of slot machine.) But the laws against internet gambling have been applied to online poker sites anyway. |
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richard Zhichao
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04-29-2009 00:02
A bill that would repeal the U.S. ban on online gambling is set to be introduced next week by U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, chairman of the House of Representatives Financial Services Committee.
Online gambling could generate $52 billion in revenue in the U.S. over the next ten years if the three-year-old ban on Internet gambling was lifted and the government taxed the industry, according to a recent study from PricewaterhouseCoopers. Barney Frank Barney Frank A bill to legalize online gambling in the U.S. had been planned to be introduced earlier, but Frank said his committee had been working on other issues focused on the credit crisis and financial regulation reform. Frank said the bill is being drafted this week. "We'll be introducing it next week and I plan to move on it," said Frank, a Democrat, speaking at the Reuters Global Financial Regulation Summit in Washington. Last month the European Commission said that U.S. laws restricting online gambling violate World Trade Organization (WTO) rules. The commission said WTO proceedings against the U.S. would be justified but the EU would first try and find a negotiated solution on the issue. "It is for the US to decide how best to regulate Internet gambling in its market, but this must be done in a way that fully respects WTO obligations," said Catherine Ashton, EU Trade Commissioner. |
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04-29-2009 00:21
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Keira Wells
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04-29-2009 00:27
Now... this confuses me. By the current rules, games of skill are allowed, so would blackjack and poker be allowed? They undoubtedly do involve skill, and yet they're generally considered gambling.
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04-29-2009 04:21
A bill that would repeal the U.S. ban on online gambling is set to be introduced next week by U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, chairman of the House of Representatives Financial Services Committee. Online gambling could generate $52 billion in revenue in the U.S. over the next ten years if the three-year-old ban on Internet gambling was lifted and the government taxed the industry, according to a recent study from PricewaterhouseCoopers. Barney Frank Barney Frank A bill to legalize online gambling in the U.S. had been planned to be introduced earlier, but Frank said his committee had been working on other issues focused on the credit crisis and financial regulation reform. Frank said the bill is being drafted this week. "We'll be introducing it next week and I plan to move on it," said Frank, a Democrat, speaking at the Reuters Global Financial Regulation Summit in Washington. Last month the European Commission said that U.S. laws restricting online gambling violate World Trade Organization (WTO) rules. The commission said WTO proceedings against the U.S. would be justified but the EU would first try and find a negotiated solution on the issue. "It is for the US to decide how best to regulate Internet gambling in its market, but this must be done in a way that fully respects WTO obligations," said Catherine Ashton, EU Trade Commissioner. Blot smiles and begins to dust off the roulette and blackjack tables that sit in his inventory. _____________________
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Qie Niangao
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04-29-2009 04:37
Hint to scripters: It can't be gambling if it never pays out.
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Brenda Connolly
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04-29-2009 06:39
A bill that would repeal the U.S. ban on online gambling is set to be introduced next week by U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, chairman of the House of Representatives Financial Services Committee. Online gambling could generate $52 billion in revenue in the U.S. over the next ten years if the three-year-old ban on Internet gambling was lifted and the government taxed the industry, according to a recent study from PricewaterhouseCoopers. Barney Frank Barney Frank A bill to legalize online gambling in the U.S. had been planned to be introduced earlier, but Frank said his committee had been working on other issues focused on the credit crisis and financial regulation reform. Frank said the bill is being drafted this week. "We'll be introducing it next week and I plan to move on it," said Frank, a Democrat, speaking at the Reuters Global Financial Regulation Summit in Washington. Last month the European Commission said that U.S. laws restricting online gambling violate World Trade Organization (WTO) rules. The commission said WTO proceedings against the U.S. would be justified but the EU would first try and find a negotiated solution on the issue. "It is for the US to decide how best to regulate Internet gambling in its market, but this must be done in a way that fully respects WTO obligations," said Catherine Ashton, EU Trade Commissioner. Great, the man responsible for the collapse of the banking sytem is now going to be our National Bookmaker. _____________________
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Shirley Marquez
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04-29-2009 12:03
Great, the man responsible for the collapse of the banking sytem is now going to be our National Bookmaker. Let's be fair... Barney Frank has only been the chairman of the Financial Services Committee since January, so he wasn't the guy in charge during the collapse. Michael Oxley of Ohio was the chairman during most of the Shrub administration. Frank was a member of the committee, however, so he's not entirely without sin. |
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Brenda Connolly
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04-29-2009 13:28
Let's be fair... Barney Frank has only been the chairman of the Financial Services Committee since January, so he wasn't the guy in charge during the collapse. Michael Oxley of Ohio was the chairman during most of the Shrub administration. Frank was a member of the committee, however, so he's not entirely without sin. I thought he's been Chairman since '07 _____________________
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richard Zhichao
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second life and gambling
04-29-2009 15:39
this is what second life building blocks are sex and gambling without one or the other second life will fail.
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Kidd Krasner
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04-29-2009 15:53
I thought he's been Chairman since '07 True, but it's silly to suggest that that makes him responsible for the banking crisis. It's silly to suggest that any one person is responsible for it. |
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Brenda Connolly
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04-29-2009 15:58
True, but it's silly to suggest that that makes him responsible for the banking crisis. It's silly to suggest that any one person is responsible for it. Of course he is not alone. But he is driving the bus as it goes off the cliff, and he does exert extroadinary influence in those matters. But his predecessors deserve the heat as well, going back at least to Slick Willie's time. And he enjoys the spotlight as he pontificates and feigns outrage over things he and his minions knew were going to happen. That's enough pontificating for now. _____________________
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richard Zhichao
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bus?
04-29-2009 16:51
i didnt say anything about a bus, just that online gambling might be going legal!
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Ace Cassidy
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04-29-2009 18:10
As an on-line poker player, and a MA resident who would be in Barney's district if I moved about 1.5 miles to the west, I think Barney Frank is as fine a Congressman as there is. His acerbic wit always makes me smile.
Frank's attempt to turn a misguided policy against online gambling into a potential revenue source scores points in my book. What used to be "we're queer, we're here, get used to it" has been expanded to "we're liberal, we're here, get used to it". I giggle when I hear disheartened Republicans whine about the state of their conservative movement. You had 8 years to make things good, and you f-ed it up royally. The GOP started a war against the wrong enemy, had a complete disregard for our civil liberties, and offered obscene tax benefits to the wealthy. How far did those policies get ya? My $0.02... - Ace _____________________
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richard Zhichao
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04-30-2009 08:54
Ok I'm confused by the sl gambling rules. I know slot machines are not allowed & some poker games but which ones? Like I've seen Jaded Kickers, Slingo, Devil May Care, & some others but how can I tell? Thanks for any help. there are alot of slot machines out there some are legal and some arnt,the only way second life will take a illegal slot down if someone bitch about it.they dont go look for them. |
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Lin Ochs
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Let's see how much fun you're having in 4 years
04-30-2009 10:00
As an on-line poker player, and a MA resident who would be in Barney's district if I moved about 1.5 miles to the west, I think Barney Frank is as fine a Congressman as there is. His acerbic wit always makes me smile. Frank's attempt to turn a misguided policy against online gambling into a potential revenue source scores points in my book. What used to be "we're queer, we're here, get used to it" has been expanded to "we're liberal, we're here, get used to it". I giggle when I hear disheartened Republicans whine about the state of their conservative movement. You had 8 years to make things good, and you f-ed it up royally. The GOP started a war against the wrong enemy, had a complete disregard for our civil liberties, and offered obscene tax benefits to the wealthy. How far did those policies get ya? My $0.02... - Ace or are you to young to remember jimmy? |
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Lindal Kidd
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04-30-2009 13:33
Ace,
I'm a Republican. Yes, my party messed up. They forgot their principles and wallowed at the public dollar trough. Just like Democrats. I'm ashamed of their performance over the last eight years. That does not change my opinion that the Democrats, especially the liberal Democrats, and most very especially Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Biden and Mr. Obama, are not far, far worse. Mr. Obama has been quoted as saying he "does not believe in the national debt". His chief of staff is such an unprincipled politico that he believes one "should never let a good crisis go to waste"... it's another opportunity to increase the grip of government on the lives of ordinary citizens. It frightens me more than I can tell you to know that the people in the wheelhouse don't know the bow from the stern. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm checking the lifeboats to make sure they're ready to go. _____________________
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Chris Norse
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04-30-2009 13:41
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Brenda Connolly
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04-30-2009 14:18
Ace, Mr. Obama has been quoted as saying he "does not believe in the national debt". If I were a Republican,which I'm not, I would acknowledge my Party's share in the blame for this mess. But they should be gracious and thank the Democrats in the House and Senate for facilitating the process the past couple of years, which include the current President and Vice President. We didn't find these two idiots out in a soybean field somewhere, they came from the same accredidted Clown College as all the rest have. This mess isn't inherited. It's just a continuation. By the way, don't forget to add Harry Reed to your favorites , Lin. _____________________
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