Banlines

Hi all!!

Is there any possibility to hide banlines in my viewer? maybe something in the debug settings

Thank you!

Offer to buy your neighbor a security orb instead.

I think there's a client side hack, maybe someone will be along shortly to confirm, but that's a workaround not a fix.

If you go to http://jira.secondlife.com and search for "banlines" you will find several requests related to this issue. You can read them and vote for them if you think they satisfy your concerns.

There is a way to fool the client by telling it to look for a transparent texture, I think, but I don't know exactly how to do that.

ok!! thank you all, looking for the "no entry" texture trick i found this:




and it works!! thank you!

Well, invisiprims will hide the banlines, but the side effects can be quite disturbing. It still might be a good idea to support a jira for a specific solution.

Yes, i have gone to jira too, i hate banlines and invisiprim just works for a "window" issue.

Indeed. For instance, let's say I wanted to be a meanie and put up banlines. My neighbor could erect such a wall on his property opposite mine, and he wouldn't see the banlines - cool! But he would also be able to see everything I'm doing inside my house, because my alpha-textured walls would be invisible through his invisiprim screen. Not that I do anything I'd be worried about people seeing - but still, that's just not right. One might say I'm a meanie for doing the banline thing, but just putting up banlines doesn't make me deserving of losing that little bit of "privacy", I think.

Actually, I'm curious. If I owned a plot that by chance happened to be completely surrounded by people that for whatever reason really don't like me, and all of them collaborated to completely surround my property with invisiprims so that my house's walls were invisible from every direction - would that be an AR'able thing? What would the category be?

One of my neighbors had banlines up.
I copied the "No Entry" texture from banlines, and put it on a prim facing his property.

If I have to look at it, so does he.

I follow some advice given in this forum. For each neighbour who puts up banlines around my land I put banlines up specifically just for them. That way they have to see what it is like too. No invisiprims, no loss of privacy, affects nobody else. sometimes I get people coming back and asking why they are suddenly on my banlist. I explain, if they take down their banlines then they come of my list too. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not but at least they have to put up with what I have to put up with.

Why not just ban him from the parcel? He'll see banlines, but nobody else will. And it doesn't cost you any prims.

Lol, like minds Dakota VV

But your avatar would be invisible too - the ultimate in privacy! However, they would see any non-alpha prims attached to you wandering around on its own, such as hair or ......!

It used to be. You could not banline all the way around a property. I have no idea if that is still enforced. But it was a hard rule for a long time.

I have a better idea...LL should ban ban lines. I'm for all property having an easement between parcels. It wouldn't take much, just a slice big enough for an avatar to squeeze through.

Have you asked your neighbour to add you to their allowed list? Explain, nicely, that you're the neighbour, the banlines are affecting things that you do on your land, etc and there's a good chance that they'll add you.

But the scenario has nothing to do with bans, only visibility.

... which I mention because "visibility" seems to have become part of parcel blocking now, at least according to a member of GTeam at his office hours on Saturday. This was in defense of their current bizarro-world enforcement policies about parcel blocking, such that adfarmers (and, as far as I can tell *only* adfarmers) can get GTeam to remove prims blocking just three sides of an adtower, even if they're phantom and full-alpha from the inside. The premise seems to be that screening out a neighbor's parcel from your side is now a form of harassment.

So, in this context, if your parcel is 16sq.m. and contains an obnoxious adtower, then you can apparently AR neighbors who surround it with invisiprims.

This is, of course, completely insane.

Well, let me explain you how i ended fixing my banlines problem. I have my house up in the sky and my neighbour has its parcel closed.

It only affects me in 30 meters of parcel. So I took 3 prims, I linked them and made them of 10x5x0.01 and I made them invisiprims. Then, I copied the windows again at the other side of the invisiprim:

inner windows + invisiprim + outer windows

All of them are 0,01 m wide. The outer windows have no alpha channel but I think it wouldn't matter at all looking from outside the house.


Looking from inside, the only difference is that i lost the water horizon at that side of the house, but i prefer that to the bliking "no entry" lines. I don't really care of my neighbour's clossed parcel, but i just wanted not to see the ugly banlines.

The other day I saw a land that was being sold that was sourrounded by huge prims. They had a script inside so that all that was behind them becomed transparent. ALL, not jus alpha channel textures. I was looking across them for a while and my shop, where there are 24-bits textures and 32-bits textures dissapeared completely.

I haven't seen that before.

This is where inaccurate names start causing problems (not aimed at you specifically ).

How high are you in the sky?

Unless the house is barely hovering above the land you are dealing with an actual ban rather than access permissions.

Yes! i have just discovered i am banned. Anyway, I have never put a virtual foot in his land

Anyway, I still think that no entry banlines should have a visibility option in everyone's viewer. I think you should be able to close your land (it's yours) but without annoying all the other residents!

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What about large privacy screens? I make them, I sell them and I have one blocking out an adfarm tower and blight next to my property. Is that an AR offense if adfarmers want to harass me even more? I have ban lines on one side and a growing adfarm on the other. I used to be surrounded by two banline parcels and one side of adfarms. My ARs are ignored.

People having their AR's ignored but the ad farm/parcel extortionist next door being able to AR them successfully does seem to be an issue, there have been multiple reports of such actions and it is causing some concern.

However not everyone is as innocent as they claim when they're on the wrong side of an AR.

There was a report from someone who put up walls to block out a view and they were told they were blocking access to the parcel because someone on another side had banlines up blocking everyone, which was fine apparently, but the walls weren't.