Furniture. No, really.

I find myself wanting to buy something from the most gamed product category of all.

Furniture.

No, really. I want to buy furniture and I don't want to visit 400 places selling crap. So, what's your recommendation for a place to buy high-quality, copy-able, modern furniture with decent, adjustable-position poses?

Symfurny.

Modern - try One Grid. I know the designer. She has a menu in her furniture, with resizer, colorchange, her lamps has lots of options for light. I think she has adjustment of poseballs too. It is no mod, all is run by the menu. She use a lot of sculpts,and if your computer can rez them, I think you will be happy that it's low prim.

I like Dahaus too. It's more retro fifties, sixties. No copy, that's sad.

MudHoney!

I looove it. And it's copyable!

I think I own almost all their living room sets by now.

Pottery Barn!

Oh wait....you meant in SL...

I recently redid my teeny tiny eensy weensy 512m mainland parcel with furniture from "off-brand Furniture" Not very prim heavy, especially when considering the detail. There is not a huge variety though, but on the other hand you'll be able to make up your mind fairly quickly about what you may or may not want to purchase there.

Edit: Oops I just noticed it is not copyable. Only copyable furniture I have is the stuff I make. Sorry.

Abiss, perhaps.

I can second on Abiss!

Maximum Minimum and Le Boudoir are good choices too for high quality furniture. If you can cope with them not being copyable... I found that the good places seldom makes copyable stuff!

Ambiance, trust me, you'll love it

If you need low prim, go see Phil, he has some really nice things.

I should add that sex features are completely useless to me and I'm not willing to pay anything for them, and in fact if sex features show up in the name of the object or on the publicly-accessible menu then the product is worth zero to me. Unfortunately one nice piece at Abiss I might otherwise have been interested in failed this test. The price has to be worth paying for the quality of the piece and the sitting anims.

I'm looking for living room furniture for a modern or futuristic build. I recently made a DJ console with a sophisticated anim adjustment feature with multiple-avatar memory, so I'm able to make highly-functional furniture, too, and I might just do that.

But I'd rather just buy it.

Thank you, Ral, but none of my furniture is copyable.

Just out of curiosity, why have you chosen to not offer copy/no-transfer versions of your stuff? I see so many vendors make this same choice, and I wonder if it's related to practical reasons (making two versions is a pain and they use up valuable prims in your store) or if there is a problem with people somehow abusing the copy privilege?

oh I missed that part, Ambiance isn't either.

So if you like the look of a piece of furniture, and it's modifiable...

I guess it's not quite the same as just buying it and having it work, but swapping out the current scripts (or maybe just editing the configuration notecards) should get rid of any naughty words.

(Personally, I tend to rip out everything, stuff the anims in my animation server, and replace the scripts with an nPose variant I hacked to work with my server. The unpleasantness is that converting MLP positions, for example, to nPose positions isn't quite as automatic as one might wish. I have another hack for MLP to get it to work with my anim server, too, but I so prefer nPose now that I'm apt to go to the extra effort.)

None of which does you any good at Abiss, though, since their stuff is no-mod, unfortunately.

[ETA: I took a spin around all the stores mentioned in this thread so far, and was surprised to find that most of them sell mostly no-mod stuff (MudHoney a conspicuous exception). This is astonishing to me, especially inasmuch as most of them use some sort of notecard-configurable multi-pose engine. Evidently nobody edits those notecards. So... only newbies buy furniture? WTF?]

It's nothing to do with prims. I have over 6000 unused prims.

I started in the low prim furniture business as a result of being in the skybox rental business. I had 60 skyboxes up and rented out, all furnished the same, and that's a small number compared to many similar businesses. I decided that, if I'm going to sell an armchair for 50L, for instance, I'd rather that it isn't used to make dozens of copies for dozens of homes. If it's going to be in dozens of homes, I'd rather get a lot more than 50L for it. My stuff is ideal for those businesses because it's very low prim, very low cost and very good quality too, and people often ask for copyable items for that purpose, but I never do them. I do quantity discounts instead, and most people who ask take up the quantity discounts.

Furniture isn't like clothing. With clothes, people make copies to create various outfits so they can change quickly, and clothes are copy/mod/no trans for that reason - plus it's excellent for when they make a mess of modding something to fit. Also, only one copy is worn (in use) at any one time. The creation of outfits/sets facility isn't needed with furniture, and the only benefit of being able to copy furniture is to have multiple copies in use simultaneously (nn for the price of one), for which the creator/seller deserves something.

That's a shame that people abusing the copy privilege have soured you and other furniture makers on making copy/no-transfer versions.

Just FYI, the ability to copy has benefits beyond the ability to rez multiple copies inworld at once.

(1) Not worrying about a sim eating a no-copy item. This isn't a problem if the seller is responsive and willing to replace something that disappears, but my experience is that a lot of sellers just don't respond to such requests.

(2) Being able to use the furniture with a rezzer so that a user can easily switch between large setups. Sometimes I want to live in my giant aquarium with fantasy-type furnishing, sometimes I want to live in my little cabin with rustic furnishing. This is fast and easy if I can just whip out a rez box and restore a whole build in seconds, but it's impractical and a bit risky to do this with no-copy items.


For me, the flexibility and peace of mind that copy privileges provide outweigh the benefit of being able to sell something when I tire of it. In some cases I'd actually rez multiple copies of something (like two chairs for a living room set), and I can understand why a seller would charge more for that privilege. To be honest, when copy privileges are available, not only am I willing to pay more for an item, but I buy more items because I know I can mix and match them to my heart's content.

*sigh* I hate it when people abusing privileges ruin things for those of us who just want to have fun and spend money. But such is the way of Second Life.

I like copyable stuff. I don't have to worry about buying it over and over, if I have more than one place to use it, or messing it up if I try to mod it. But some things it isn't as important.

I don't mind paying a bit more for copyable rights. I don't know that copyable perms hurt businesses. MudHoney seems to do okay. I'm not sure who else has copyable furniture, though. Prices vary so widely on SL. I like her prices and for what you get it's fair, I think. I was in another 'fancy' furniture store the other day. Their stuff is not copyable. I'm not sure if it has any perms at all. And wow was it pricey. But each shop owner has to do what feels right for them based on their experience.

If anyone is Christmas shopping, I like Minke Bailey's shop (MB) because all her things are mod copy! It's great. I liked one item but it was far too primmy for the parcel I wanted to use it on. I spent a long time unlinking and removing a lot of things from it. It is nice to have that option. It also makes shopping less painful, since I ended up buying almost all she has! And I've also changed some colors and removed prims on some other things of hers too.

Some things are 'no frills,' and prices and perms reflect that, and that is okay too.

I had several places that I was about to recommend to the OP but the copyable criteria stopped me; I hadn't heard of Mudhen but now will check that place. I have several land parcels around SL, some big, some small, and often have the same house on different parcels. Would be nice to use the same furniture too, if I had some that was copyable.

MudHoney, although MudHen is a great shop name!

It's great being able to rez as many times as I want. I wish I could find more copyable stores.

I've also stopped buying plants at all unless they are copyable. When is ONE plant handy?

Tatty's in Gecco has a single plant/tree vendor but it's all 1 prim and mod/copy. Average price 20 Lindens. Just in case anyone needs plants/trees to go with their furnishings.

I'm not on retainer for any of these places in any way. I just like them.

It's not that anyone has abused the copy priviledge - I never did copy items. At the time I started selling, I had 60 skyboxes up and rented out and I know exactly what I would have done if I could have bought, say, one sexbed and made 60 copies of it - even if I could have got it for 2 or 3 times it's normal price. It wouldn't have been an abuse.

I do appreciate those reasons you gave, especially the idea of rezzing furniture in sets (because it was something I was into when I made and sold temp rezzers, while still renting out very versatile skyboxes), but, on balance, I think the no-copy way is best for me.

There's another, lesser, reason why no-copy is best for furniture sellers. If a good friend likes a copy, no trans, item of clothing that you're wearing, enough to actually want one, all you can do is pass on where you got it from because th item is no good unless it's worn. Furniture is different. You could rez one in the friend's home for them, and that wouldn't be fair.

Also, we are not talking about significant amounts of money. Most of my furniture sells for just 50L. When I started, similar items cost 200-300L.

There are some good reasons for copy furniture but, on balance, no copy is best for creators. Furniture and its uses are nothing like clothes.

Having the correct name will help when I try to go there, eh. Thanks. There is a children's book, old, from the 60's called The Mudhen. I just bought it for someone off of ebay and guess it was stuck in my mind, sorry!

Treasure is a treasure.

There is nothing to be sorry or blush about. I wouldn't have said anything except for the reason it might lead you who knows where in SL. Lol.

Nimue Jewell's Prim Pinchers.

Poses and textures can be changed from a menu on almost all her gorgeous creations. Not sure if they are copyable.

Most everything in my store is mod/transfer, but I will do mod/copy by request. Anyone interested can IM me for prices.

Nimue's is a very good offer.

I'vee only ever let one person have a copy version of any of my furniture, which I gave her instead of selling to her, and that's because:-

a) I see her as an actual friend.

b) She kept asking.

c) Because I didn't take any money for it, she's won't feel right asking for other stuff, and

d) She has nice tits.