Question and a Thought about accounts

Does anyone know the reasoning behind basic accounts never being deleted? With all the asset server problems and other issues with server capacity you would think the best way ease some of that burden would be deleting basic accounts after a period of inactivity. Why should an account that has not been accessed in over 3 months, still be around? with their inventory information sitting out on the servers. One would have to think there are a ton of accounts created by people that wanted to experienced SL for a while picked up a ton of free items and then just walked away. If I stop paying my premium account and do not down grade to basic, after 90 days or so all my stuff would be gone. why should a paying customer be subjected to different rules, just down grade me, take my land and let me sit idle for eternity like john Q newbie over there.. Its common practice to clean up accounts when the are inactive for to long. why isn't this employed here?

Because by not deleting them, the total number of residents stays very high. LL wants to make it look like they have 100x more residents than they really do, therefore, accounts don't get deleted.

While unfortunate, I have to agree. They seem to just want to inflate their actual player population. Judging by the current residents online I notice when I'm logging in, the actual number that are ever logged in are only 10% of what they say the total residents are.

Online now: 41,575

Some of those are camp bots or traffic bots.

From the SL Stats page [http://secondlife.com/whatis/economy_stats.php]:

Residents Logged-In During Last 7 Days 496,366
Residents Logged-In During Last 14 Days 654,608
Residents Logged-In During Last 30 Days 932,102
Residents Logged-In During Last 60 Days 1,366,892
Total Residents 12,320,151

Sadly you are correct more then LLABS care to revail..............of those 41,??? atleast 1/2 are bots. Totally sad and seemly the trend of the future. There will be a time well be at 100,000 online and more then 80,000 wik be bots in those chairs.....Or dancing for money.

When I'm up on my isolated build platform, I don't see anybody else! I'd say that at least 99.9% of the logged-in number are bots..

People always make up numbers for how many online are 'real'. The answer is that nobody, maybe not even LL, really knows.

Sadly knows or cares.....LLABs really is not close to waht they use to be.

While part of the reason may be because LL wants to inflate user numbers, the fact is that inactive accounts don't really consume much in the way of resources. They take up a bit of disk space and thats it. Capacity issues are created not by the inactive cruft dormant in the database but by all the active accounts rezing, moving around and doing stuff that keeps the asset servers wheels spinning to keep up. Clearing out inactive assets would probably be a lot of work for little or no performance gain.

It would at the very least clear up a lot of names, maybe we wouldn't see so many stupid monikers in SL if a lot of the inactive "real" names were available for people to use.

But if there are 241 others, it must mean that 'L33tSexzor242' is a great name. Right?

You know the second they delete one, that person is going to be on the phone bitching about how LL deleted their account without permission. It's Murphy's Law. Unless someone explicitly asks LL to delete the account, they won't, and IMHO, they shouldn't. Most other MMOs have the same policy. Who knows, maybe I'll go back to that WoW account I've not touched in 2 years *someday*.

I don't believe 99% of those online are bots or even 50% but I do believe it's high. I can't prove the number aren't that high either. No one knows. The current system just plain sucks.

Phil Linden - the ultimate Traffic Gamer.

You would think they could delete accounts that haven't been used for over a year.

I think corporations are on to the fact there really aren't 12 million people using Second Life by now.

I resemble that! (>.<.... lolololololol!!!!! (^_^)

What also is sad is that a Premium member who lapses on payment (for whatever reason), or who cannot afford the downgrade from premium fee (for whatever reason) will have their account disabled (the disabled is not a surprise) AND as punishment for owing LL money, their account is left in limbo while their inventory is permanently deleted.

It's a well known fact that 84% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Can never understand if this person is for or aganist things. When he post remarks (people say I am confusing a times).........Then again some people love to play both sides of issues for some reason. So they never feel they are wrong about any issues they are trying to explain their view about.

Frankly speaking love Believe it there are more then 50% of bot currently on during any given time on sl these days. I don`t know how long you been on sl. But There was a time when people use to have real people behind the monitor when met them on sl. These days your lucky if 20% are depending on your location in.

I've always gone with:
"There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, damn lies, and statistics" ~Mark Twain

However, I may like yours better Yosef.

This is really sad, if say someone been around for 4 years and they can`t play on sl or pay for the game. They have to pay a fee to just leave. All the money they gave in payments and buying monies they are treated this bad. It seems like they force you to stay reguardless. To keep those laughable stats about population and daily logins. Its like saying sorry you have to go, but we have to get one last payment out of you. Some repect for those that either were builders or other forms of useful users on sl.

What I like to know is if LLABS kicks back favors or other means to those thise tha give free clothing, hair money etc. Because it seems these days there are just as free to newbie clothing and objects they there are sellers. I know from the past there are still some hanging around beliving they are in LLABS bed just because they offer a newbie style landing point.

The old school people ( newbie style locations ) still believe they are special just because they give away objects and free advice to those so called newbies. But frankly speaking as many of use knows there are no such thing as a real newbie these days. Oh maybe they are stuck on OI or etc. But the game is changing in the direction of companies and not a play just to hangout anymore. Whats worse is on the About Second Life Grid page there is a location that points out a starting point for those intersted in starting business. What a laugh as they say. They know as much as grade school kids, Trying to explain the stockmarket.......

What? Downgrade from premium fee?

My daughter has downgraded twice (for the exact reason stated - could not afford it for a while) and never incurred a fee for it.

Am I totally misunderstanding something here?

Perhaps you'll find that account non existant then, WoW and CoH delete accounts, not sure if it's 3,6 or 12 months.
You want to keep it, you keep paying

I think the bot thing is just sad..on soo many different levels..and I lump camping in there too...all of a sudden frozen dead lifeless personless avatars have become part of the terrain..like TREES..or bushes. Is the economy so bad or the mentality of the newbs so....."limited" they can't or don't wanna do what we do to make money?..and that's make stuff?

I've been to entire SIMs dedicated to alternative lifestyles with clubs and stores etc and i was floored. The freaking DJs were camping...the "live music shows" weren't live the dancers on the dance floor were "fake"..th strippers on the poles were camping..they were campers...who...WHO??? is paying these people money? and can they really afford to actually buy the traffic?...and is it really worth it?. I really don't understand the mentality behind this strategy. ((seems if your dream or idea of a club or strip joint or mall doesnt draw "real" people..let the dream die..dream something else..that involves real people)

It's like they're "plastic" sims..plastic people..no convos..nothing..it's one of the strangest things I've seen in SL as of late. i can understand a stray person washing a window..painting a wall..being a hot dog vendor..but absolutely every possible activity in the SIM involves camping?...."SPOOKY"..."sad"

Do these Campers ever get enough cash?..do they ever evolve?..graduate?...move on?


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