Stop burrying your stuff in my yard!

I know, I know, I allow it, as I allow thoes that are on my access security list to rez their objects there.

But it seems like a few times a day someone is burrying a chat bug on my land, who is not on my access list. Is there anyway to prevent this without taking away the ability to rez objects (for my friends) from my land?

Also, how reliable are these chat bug scanners? It has warned me that an object "may" be a chat bug, but how reliable is that?


Thanks,
Jez

Use auto return. If the land is deeded, just make sure that all your prims are set to the same group as that the land is deeded to.

Any item running a script on your land, that you did not place and trust may be running a chat bug. Is your land group owned? If so give group members build rights but take it from the general populaton. You can turn off scripts or build either one for non group members.

I just check my land once a day in about land>objects>refresh list and return objects that were not left by group members. The annoyance of having to do it is compensated for with the satisfied feeling I get watching my prim count go up after their objects have been returned.

your land does NOT need to be group owned to take advantage of group permissions.
1. create a group 'jezzas clan' or whatever.
2. in your land menu 'set to group'
3. set the 'everyone' role within your group how you wish
4. turn off public-build or turn on autoreturn

thanks will do

It is impossible to answer that question without knowing how the script works. Regardless, the use of Chat Bugs is a serious violation of the TOS, and you should Abuse Report it to LL. Hopefully that is still one of the things they do enforce. Let them investigate it and determine if it is a chat bug, the fact that your scanner disclosed it is all the justification you need for reporting it.

Is there a scanner that can tell the difference between a chat bug script and any other script being run? If not, are you suggesting we bury the Linden's in an avalanche of misreported bugs?

I am told by knowledgeable people that most if not all scanners are not able to distinguish, but only report objects with scripts. To be sure, you have to locate the object and try to determine what script it is running in its Content box.

Many are not very reliable - one of these "chat bug" scanners reported my visitors list which is filtered to only listen to owner on a specified channel, not open chat (so I can retrieve the list of who happened by, reset the list, etc) as a chat spy, which it definitely is not. (the script is mine, heavily modified from a Linden visitor list script, so I know what it does!)

So all I can tell, is they're looking for active scripts nearby, and not really capable of very much. I found it highly annoying that the person's "chatspy detector" sent me IM to not run a chatspy, even though the script was in my own freaking house, and not even doing that.

I know its against TOS, and to be honest I am sure its just nosey people and a few mentirosas.

I just send them back to the owner, but its a PITA.

Wasn't anything against you Jez, just the suggestion you should start AR'ing scripts willy nilly.

Right! Imp0ortant to verify that it is a TOS violation first. Nobody needs a deluge of false-positive ARs on LL. It has enough problems with the volume of genuine ones.

Security access means nothing if you allow building and/or object entry onto your land. I seriously advise turning those features OFF except to group. Sorry for you folks with vehicles, but nobuild means nothing if they can sit half a sim away and slide the object onto your land.

Next time go into EDIT mode on the object, or get teh owner's name from the ABOUT LAND >>> Objects tab. Ban said person. That ~should~ set it so that person can not rez, nor move objects onto that parcel (unless LL broke it.....again).

~Jessy

Correct. But in reality this might be difficult.

If you would create and place a chat bug, what would you call the object and the script? "Secret chat bug"? Not if you have more than half a braincell. Most likely it'll be something innocious like, say, "Copybot protection".

Yeah. At least you can AR for littering your property in any case. I meant that to also AR them for chat spying, a TOS violation too, you should be sure it is. My thought was, if you could open the script itself you might get a clue. But that may not be possible either.

/me waves to up-till-now landlord Ricky, a very good landlord laid low by the VAT bug. : (

But... a few times a day?! Either this is one stupid spy, or the intended harassment is make you *think* somebody is spying on you. I mean, you know the name(s) of the objects' owner(s), and the "spy" knows you know, because they have to keep replacing the "bug".

Unless one had reason to suspect the objects' owner(s), or to be at some special risk for espionage, my first guess would be that the objects weren't really chat bugs.

Its stupid spies (and their alts), they know I know and well if they dont quit soon, I will AR them.

Unfortunately, banning someone won't keep them from standing nearby and sliding objects onto your land (if they have build permission in neighboring land).

I think you know what you need to do.

Chalk it up to the cost of being famous and sexy.

The price of infamy from your blog Jezabell. Unfortunately there are a bunch of pervs in SL and I am afraid it is going to be a continuing problem for you until you change your land permissions. I had a GF over a year a ago that was stalking me and I took a crash course in spying in SL. This included me buying a chat spy to see how they worked. A person can deploy a chat spy from anywhere in your sim. All they do is type in your name and it will take off and keep looking until it finds you. At that point it will park itself some place innocuos. If you are at ground level then it will bury itself underground. It is a tortured prim that is impossible to see and when it is deployed it will rename itself to something similiar in the neighborhood it parks itself. This coupled with the ability to disable camera restraints means that someone can be 500 meters or much farther aways and hear and see everything you do.

There are a bunch of silly-assed people that get thier jollies that away. Me I never worry about it. I personally don't care if someone sits there and watches me standing for hours scripting . If you are worried about it and want some privacy then simply stay outside of chat range from your property borders and put auto return at 1 minute for anyone outside of your group and disable non group scripts.

damn bastards. Yes well I think I have it solved.

unsecured land is asking for problems

Hmmmmm, chatspy scanner? Object might be a chatspy?

I'm guessing that all it does is use a Sensor to detect any objects containing active scripts. A script is active when it is actually running OR when it has an active listen so any object it detects MIGHT be a chatspy.

Then again, it might be a pose ball with an open listen, or anything else that takes commands from chat. Or it might be that it's something that runs periodically and happened to be running when you scanned.

Can we say 'paranoia' ?

But then, generating exactly this sort of paranoia is just the sort of thing that sells items like 'chatspy detectors'

Max

If you think you have a spyball on your land.. Do what I did last time... I wrote a little script on a 1 second timer... It whispered in open chat... "Can you hear me now?".. I placed it so that the spy ball could hear it but the whisper did not leave my land.. I let it run over night... Next day the "spy ball" had vanished! I wonder why? *laughs*