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Joining unconnected parcels?

Okiphia Rayna
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12-04-2007 09:34
All of my land is in one sim, but I have a couple of parcels seperate from the rest, just for the prims. I was wondering if it was possible to join them to the main parcel to share the land settings and whatnot? I want to ban the same people, have the same music, etc.. anyone know a way?
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Love Hastings
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12-04-2007 09:40
From: Okiphia Rayna
All of my land is in one sim, but I have a couple of parcels seperate from the rest, just for the prims. I was wondering if it was possible to join them to the main parcel to share the land settings and whatnot? I want to ban the same people, have the same music, etc.. anyone know a way?


We have a two disconnected parcels, and by having them be a part of the same group, they share prims. The music also carries over, and I would think the other settings.
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Caroline Ra
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12-04-2007 09:41
To join land parcels you need at least 2 16 sq mt edges of each plot meeting. The only feasable way to do this is to have a thin 16 sq mt strip joining the plots. Might be quicker/cheaper to add someone to each plot ban list seperately.
Deeding or setting to same group might help as well.
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Okiphia Rayna
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12-04-2007 09:41
From: Love Hastings
We have a two disconnected parcels, and by having them be a part of the same group, they share prims. The music also carries over, and I would think the other settings.


Just being owned by the same group should do it?

They are and.. they don't share any settings =/
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Love Hastings
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12-04-2007 09:43
From: Okiphia Rayna
Just being owned by the same group should do it?

They are and.. they don't share any settings =/


Hmmm. Perhaps my landlord did some magic for us. Or perhaps it's only the prims that are shared. Sorry. :(
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12-04-2007 09:43
Get your camera far enough back to see two parcels you want to join. Drag the Edit Terrain selection box over both and join.
Bummer if there's another parcel you own in between them. You would probably have to cut that out again.
However, if the parcels are so far apart that you have a problem seeing them together, try cutting out small parcels along the way, and sort of daisy-chain them into a single parcel. Then when the original widely-separated parcels are joined in a larger parcel, cut out the intermediate parcels.
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Kitty Barnett
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12-04-2007 09:44
You should be able to fly up high enough to drag a selection rectangle that covers both parcels and then simply join them together.
Chas Connolly
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12-04-2007 09:44
I seem to remember someone recently saying you could 'join' disconnected plots, but I can't remeber the thread or the solution.

Then why are you posting, you idiot!?
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Sling Trebuchet
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12-04-2007 09:45
From: Caroline Ra
To join land parcels you need at least 2 16 sq mt edges of each plot meeting. The only feasable way to do this is to have a thin 16 sq mt strip joining the plots. Might be quicker/cheaper to add someone to each plot ban list seperately.
Deeding or setting to same group might help as well.


Nope. They don't have to share a boundary.
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Okiphia Rayna
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12-04-2007 09:53
Awesome so I just have to zoom out super far =P I own about 1/4 of a sim.. and have land on the opposite side XD

Thanks a ton, when I get home after school I'll be working on getting my cam to do it =P
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Egon Rothschild
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12-04-2007 09:58
i was in the same position. pieces on the other side of a sim used for only primmage. i never bothered with any settings on them. with nothing on them .. why bother?
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Okiphia Rayna
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12-04-2007 10:01
From: Egon Rothschild
i was in the same position. pieces on the other side of a sim used for only primmage. i never bothered with any settings on them. with nothing on them .. why bother?


One of them has a little cuddle room =P
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Egon Rothschild
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12-04-2007 10:05
ah. ic.

in that case .. yes, fly up until you can see both pieces. then use the edit terrain tool. start on the primmage plot and drag a box connecting it with the main plot. then join them. with the primmage plot joined TO the main, your main settings should apply to both. at least i think this is the order. you might have to check the land settings after this.

continue with the other primmage pieces until you have them all connected.

edit: it doesn't matter if there is someone else's land in between. just create the land terrain box thru their land. only your land will be joined. not theirs.

pity ;)
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Okiphia Rayna
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12-04-2007 10:08
From: Egon Rothschild
ah. ic.

in that case .. yes, fly up until you can see both pieces. then use the edit terrain tool. start on the primmage plot and drag a box connecting it with the main plot. then join them. with the primmage plot joined TO the main, your main settings should apply to both. at least i think this is the order. you might have to check the land settings after this.

continue with the other primmage pieces until you have them all connected.

edit: it doesn't matter if there is someone else's land in between. just create the land terrain box thru their land. only your land will be joined. not theirs.

pity ;)

be interesting if you took theirs doing it lol... i could be a land pirate!

ANd thanks ^^
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Ava Glasgow
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12-04-2007 10:35
If you have trouble viewing both parcels AND being able to select parts of them, try temporarily turning your draw distance WAY up (and of course disabling camera constraints). When I was parceling out my sim before selling it, I found this made a difference.

You might have to turn off clouds too if your camera goes above them.
FireEyes Fauna
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12-04-2007 10:47
I remember joining all the Shelter's plots in Isabel a few months back, that weren't connected (They were both surrounded by protected land) and it worked fine.

I tried doing it again about a month back and it errored on me, saying that I Can't select land that isn't mine.

Not sure if something changed since a few months ago, if there's a new bug, or if some variable changed in what I was doing that I'm not sure of.

I know the first time I was selecting through linden land. The second time I had another person's land included. Might make a difference.

"You selected land with different owners. Please select a smaller area and try again"
Sling Trebuchet
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12-04-2007 12:40
I joined some 16m plots that were completely separated by other owners' plots (but not Governor Linden) back in mid-October. No problem then.
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FireEyes Fauna
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12-04-2007 12:51
Ok, I just did some testing...

I had group permissions in Group A as well as Group B.

I was trying to join 2 parcels in Group A while overlapping into a Group B parcel. That's what was causing the error. I left Group B, and was able to join both parcels in Group A.
Egon Rothschild
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12-04-2007 13:02
From: Sling Trebuchet
I joined some 16m plots that were completely separated by other owners' plots (but not Governor Linden) back in mid-October. No problem then.


were they all yours? or were you "appropriating" an ad farm? ;)
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12-04-2007 14:58
From: Egon Rothschild
were they all yours? or were you "appropriating" an ad farm? ;)


I was taking enough out of the front of an ad farm to make the rest of it fairly useless for ads, and then adding some of the cheapest unconnected internal 16m plots for extra prims.

So now instead of an ad farm fronting onto a Linden ocean, there's a platform with a free public canoe rezzer.
We have 36 prims in total, so we'll be able to rezz bigger boats too.

For now, it's just simple 2-seater canoes. All are welcome to use them.
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77 Allstar
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12-04-2007 15:40
Hi

When you want to use the other Land for the extra prim, just set or deed it to the same group you have your land set.
The options settings you would have to change seperatly, also adding the bans into the new land.


Knowladge base says:

Joining land:

(Ensure that both parcels of land are adjacent (they share a border at some point). )

Ensure that both parcels have the same owner. You cannot, for example, join your group land to your personal land.
Nina Stepford
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12-04-2007 17:55
you can join two nonconnecting lots providing:
a) they are not too far apart
b) the land between them is not owned by a group you are a member of.

people are wondering what the advantage of joining them is. the advantage is that the joined land will function as one parcel, sharing all the same settings as well as the same banlist, plus you will often pick up a few extra prim allotments in the process.
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Ryou Yiyuan
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12-05-2007 13:49
If this parcell need be in same sim ?
I ask that because I can purchase 401sqm to complete my fee but I hesitate to buy another parcell in another sim if I can't join it to add prim for a group.
Thanks in advance for answer.
Caroline Ra
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12-05-2007 14:01
From: FireEyes Fauna
I remember joining all the Shelter's plots in Isabel a few months back, that weren't connected (They were both surrounded by protected land) and it worked fine.

I tried doing it again about a month back and it errored on me, saying that I Can't select land that isn't mine.

Not sure if something changed since a few months ago, if there's a new bug, or if some variable changed in what I was doing that I'm not sure of.

I know the first time I was selecting through linden land. The second time I had another person's land included. Might make a difference.

"You selected land with different owners. Please select a smaller area and try again"


Thats the problem I was getting, other land in the way, the edit terrain selection of 16sq mts doesnt work well if you try to work in a castle turret type of shape to work around other land because as soon as you take your finger off the cursor it stops the selection.
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Parcels that do not touch each other can be joined
12-05-2007 14:42
I posted above that I had joined parcels separated by parcels belonging to others a few months ago.
I just went back there a few minutes ago to see if anything had been changed in the logic.

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Dunnylun/178/4/21/

1) I subdivided off the back end prim parcel.
2) I then had two separate parcels that did not share a boundary or even touch at a corner.
3) I dragged the selection box over a rectangle that encompassed my two parcels and parcels between that were owned by 5 other owners. The two parcels are separated by a row of 16m plots.
4) Clicked 'Join'

No problem. It joined my two separate parcels into a single parcel.

The land is owned by my group, as opposed by myself.
I'm not interested enough in the answer to buy the land off the group and check if it's any different for non-group ownership. :)
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