Help with Group land

HELP! Can someone direct me or give me instructions. My partner and I want to sell some land thats designated to a group. We want to switch the group on it so our renters dont get proceeds. Is there a way to switch the group? If not how do I insure that our renters wont get proceeds from the sale of this parcel?

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you want to keep the renters there? or get rid of them as well?

You need to sell the land back to yourself to get it out of the group. If you sell it whilst it is part of the group still regardless of who gets the payments nobody will get paid for at least 72 hours (I think that is right - it is a long time anyway).

Easiest thing by far is to sell the land from the group to yourself and then sell the land normally.

You don't need to get the land back out of the group, but if you're really intent on it (remember that you forfeit the 10% tier bonus then and don't get the benefit of having multiple people with tier donated):

* open the group window
* go to the Land & L$ tab and zero out your tier donation (it'll mention that you're putting the group short on tier, but that's fine, you're not loosing the land in the time it takes to sell it back to yourself)
* now put the land up for sale at L$0 to you specifically. Don't set it for sale to anyone (L$0 will force you to put a name already) at a low price, a bot is guaranteed to snatch it before you can blink your eyes

Do pay close attention to the buy window: note that you're not bumping yourself up in tier (if it says that, double check that your group tier contribution is set to 0). Once it's back in your name you can sell it for whatever price you want.

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Or: you can simply make sure that noone but you (or you and your partner 50/50) get the proceeds from the land sale

* open the group window
* go to the Member & Roles tab
* click on the Abilities tab
* scroll down to Accounting / Pay group liabilities etc and note which roles currently have that ability set
* click on the Roles tab
* for each of the Roles you just noted (except Owners), uncheck the Pay group liabilities etc ability and click Apply
* go back to the Abilities and scroll down to verify that only Owners are set to receive dividends

It's easier than it sounds . You can't keep owners from getting dividends, but that shouldn't be a problem probably.

You can now set the land for while it's still group owned, when it's bought the balance will go into the group and sometime the next day each owner will get an even cut (if there's 1 owner they get 100%, if there's 2 each gets 50%, etc).

Don't forget to pull your tier back out of the group (see above) once it's sold since tier donated to a group always counts as used.

(The above assumes it's mainland with LL tier, if it's land on a private sim just disregard any mention to zero'ing out your tier contribution )

Have to careful with that last method Kitty, I seem to recall there was a bug not so long ago where the proceeds still got shared amongst group members even if no one else had those settings checked. Not sure if that is still the case though.

I really hate it when LL breaks things that have worked fine for years . It's near-impossible to keep track of what still works and what's broken at any given time .

Yup sadly

That was my next question as I had noticed this when I was playing with my group and a knockaround alt, even though his membership type did not include sharing of costs and return it appears that he may benitfit.

[Something for me to check into fiurther tonight]

Thank you for all the advice Im pretty sure all the renters dont have ability to pay dividends to the group. It isnt check under their roles. But scarey to think about ..ha
I have each rental spot divided. This is just one of them I want to sell. If I sell this to my partner ..designate his name in the sell to.. and sell for 1 linden. That would work?
Then he can list it for sale to anyone? OH dear what if it puts him over his tier.
Maybe he should do the same to me. Have me buy one of his? OK Im confused which is the best:/

how overly complex.
just disable group accounting for the group role that the renters are assigned to.

When you sell it - the group accounting tab will look like it is being divided up - but if you have checked that only the people you want (owners) have the accounting ability - it will only be divided amongst them.

If you want to take land out of the group, it'll be easiest if the person who is donating tier to the group takes it out (unless you both have enough spare tier obviously).

It you're selling a 2048m² and you 8192m² in tier donated, you'd lower your contribution to 8192m² - 2048m² = 6144m², giving you enough to hold the land in your name.

And always sell to yourself for L$0, not L$1. L$0 forces you to specify someone specific to sell to; maybe you won't forget, but why take the risk?