How much do you crash?

Several times per day... sometimes with BSOD's. I seldom actually log out. Normally I keep going until I crash. It used to annoy me, nowadays I just put up with it. SL is the only program that affects my computer so badly. It runs sweet as a nut for everything else.

Crashing is not unusual for me, but it doesn't happen anything like as much as it used to. The older of our 2 computers is more stable for SL, but I don't get full WindLight effects, I have draw distance set at 64 metres and frame rate is slow.

On the newer computer, I get full, beautiful WindLight effects, 256 metre draw distance and high frame rate. But it does crash more often. However this is more a problem of Vista as the crashes occur with other applications not just SL and require a restart of the comp - sometimes using the Vista disc - a pain!

I occasionally redmap, which I think is more down to my ISP than the viewer or PC I'm using. It's frustrating, especially when it sneaks up on you.

Actual crashes are much rarer these days. Using Nicholaz EC-f, I honestly can't remember my last crash and I'm on almost every day, sometimes for 8 hours or more. I had a spell using the RL viewer, which would crash every hour or so, usually if I panned my camera around too much. Likewise the standard LL 1.19xxx build.

Techy stuff for comparison: I'm using full Windlight effects apart from moving object reflections, 256m draw, 1920x1200 window. PC is a 4200+ Athlon dual core, 2GB RAM, NVIDIA 7900GS 256MB, running Windows XP. I get around 20fps moving my camera in a moderately busy area, anything up 80fps standing still in an empty sim.

Ooooh...*shivers*....yummm

Anyone who has the same problem? When I TP from one SIM to another SIM, I crash on arrival. What is the reason for this? It is so annoying

Welcome to the forums. When an agent TPs to a new sim, a tremendous amount of stuff happens in the client and over the network. Several things you might try, in order to narrow down the set of potential causes. First, if you haven't already tried clearing cache, that's an easy thing to do for the next login. Then, you might try disabling streaming media, parcel audio, and (especially) voice to see if any of that is to blame with your client environment (may need a new QuickTime, say, or maybe FMOD is a little b0rked, or something, since all that stuff gets exercised a bit at TP). And then the network: maybe try rebooting everything in the path between your client box and the ISP's wall jack.

When none of that helps we'll have to break out the big hammers. [ETA: And we'll probably ask pesky questions about the Help/About Second Life details of the client installation.]

I rarely crash. In fact, the crash I experienced in a really graphics-heavy sim the other day was my first in many weeks.

Basically, I use the standard viewer, whatever it's called, not any of the testers.
My graphics are set fairly low, as is my draw distance. I crank those when I want to take pictures or when I'm in a sim where the images really need to be seen (which was the case when I crashed the other day). I don't use the shaders but I have imposters turned off.

I also clear my cache every time I log in. While that makes some of my regular haunts load slower, it makes no difference when travelling to new areas.

As a result, I find that I crash a lot less than those making greater demands on their bandwidth and graphics capabilities.

I use a Mac, so presently can't use the RC, it has a bug. But when I have used it or now using the main viewer, I crash probably every 3 days on average, and I think this is mostly to do with memory leaks which are pretty bad for Macs. My 4GB memory probably allows me to stay on line longer than other Mac users, more often I get warnings, like my computer going into shut down mode, which I then just usually, reactivate and log out, reboot and start over.

Last time I had crash on TP everytime it was due to my ISP throttling my bandwidth back to near dialup speed because I hit my monthly limit, I also had really slow rezzing of my surroundings and my inventory took an hour to load only about half of it.
That was TP, crash relog to get about. Sitting on a chair sent me up in the sky somewhere looking at water for 10minutes.

the only time I have crashed was when I went to the space flight place and I went to ride on the space ship. As soon as we blasted off I crashed.

I am using the version that came out when windlight came out
and my computer is older then dirt I dont meet and of the recomended specs. I dont get to see windlight and my draw is at 64 but. I and walk and shop and talk to people so I never have a problem. I was thinking of upgrading my computer but everyone that I know of that has a brand new computer with all of the best things crash every 10 min or when we tp to a new place.

I will probably upgrade my computer the next time LL makes a new update thats mandatory and my old computer cant run it

What'm I doing wrong? I use the latest RC and crash every hour or so, usually on a tp, and almost always after I've cammed around a lot.

I guess I could stop looking at things...

I use the standard viewer. Seldom if ever crash.. I do get hung up sometimes and have to wait for things to catch up. Since I got my ISP problems fixed I stopped crashing.

"CX"

i also use the standard viewer. i never crash in-world, but i do crash every single time i shut down. (my machine is current as well as current viewer. mac g5)

Not realy a crash but I often get Smart heap memory errors after playing a few hours,

probably crash to desktop once a day on my 64bit Vista machine, very rarely on my XP machine.

I use both Release and Latest beta viewers.

Yep same here... it has been with the last 2 RC's its getting pretty annoying as I rarely crashed before this client.. and its weird crashes too.. white screen followed by a partial recovery then dead.. or a sudden drop, one second I am typing in chat the next SL disspears. Often it is a slow crash where I will notice chat starting to lag, then I freeze I can still do stuff just not move , then a couple of white screen flashes sometimes it will even start working again then perma freeze followed a crash and log dump.

This is made even more frustrating because I work with sculpties alot and I love the new sculpt type menu in the RC as well as some LOD fixes.. its just I can't run it for more than an hour without problems.

Nicolaz viewer is better but often shows LOD problems for sculpties..



-whyroc

Wow! I was really hoping I'd get a lot of similar reports here to mine to convince me it's nothing to do with me!!!
Last night, I was getting crashes repeatedly anything between 20 minutes and 2! I just couldn't stay in Grendels, I was crashing quicker than I could log, and every second log said "region is going through logging out process" Twice, I got the "you cannot login till .."

Core Duo 2, 3Gb RAM, 8800GTX .. I can often login four at a time. Last night just one was painful.

Just to add confusion: This current RC has been relatively stable for me--about as good as the main release, on both Linux and XP platforms, whereas prior to this one, it crashed every few hours on XP and at least once an hour on Linux, in my experience. I was thinking things were really looking up.

Not very often. I'm using the latest standard viewer with windlight enabled and it runs fine 99% of the time. If I had to state an average crash rate....maybe once per week but it depends how oftem I'm on. I've not spent much time in world lately because I just moved and I'm in the middle of buying a house and job hunting....yikes! I'll be so happy when the dust settles and I can get back to a more normal existence. One thing I have noticed is if I'm in-world for a long time.....like 4 or so hours in an evening...I'll eventually crash. I think it's a conspiracy between my computer and my cat to get me away from the PC and into bed at a decent time!

Related: when I upgraded my 'puter an my router a couple months ago (new 20" iMac an an Airport Extreme), I noticed a very marked improvement in SL performance, making me realize that a lot of the things I was attributing to SL bugs/server lag/etc were really on my end and the product of the connection and/or the computer I was using at the time.

Graphics cards/drivers combinations play a large part in the stability or non-stability of SL, that is often why there is such a wide difference in experiences. Also some might operating at uber settings whilst others run along at more modest settings. Throw in to the mix the amount of ram a computer has and whether all of that is free from hardware failures (these can be subtle and not always recognisable as hardware failures as things can break little by little - especially with ram) and you have a broad matrix of possible crash/non-crash scenarios. All these things play a part in the overall stability of SL.

Oh I forgot cheap power supply units, not all PSUs are equal and the less money you paid for your computer the likelihood is the cheaper the PSU was. The main problem here is that a good quality PSU will give a fairly uniform continuum of power to the declared rating (in watts) where as in the cheap ones the declared rating is the maximum the PSU can achieve - not quite the same. This can cause spurious reboots, failures in modern graphics cards (as they suck a lot of juice), etc....

I haven't hac a client crash in months, using either the main viewer or the RC one. The biggest effect on reducing crashes was upping the computer's RAM to 2gig. 1 gig just wasn't enough.

I dont know what I am doing right then becuase like I said I never crash and I bought a 499$ e-machine special at walmart back in 2003 and it runs sl fine and I only have 512 ram, who knows what kind of graphics card, and nothing fancy.
Maybe I am just lucky lol
I dont even want to chance buying a new computer what if I cant run sl or crash 10 million times

Sometimes you do get a good machine like that with obviously quality parts. Even quality resellers can end up using some poor quality parts and quite clearly cheaper resellers can end up using good quality parts. There are no hard and fast rules. I had a desktop machine that was from a good reseller and its power supply was terrible. Thats why I know about power supplies now lol.

Also much comes down to what other stuff you keep on your PC and what else is stuck in memory and potentially conflicting with SL and/or the graphics drivers.

I think you did get lucky, especially if you did not really look very much into what you bought.

I usualy crash every few minutes, but thats becuase I'm always working on my client, modding and patching

I have never crashed on Linden Labs client, only lost connection. But then I don't use theres often

I've been using the RC ever since it went Windlight, and for a few versions it was pretty impossible to use. But, since RC4 or 5, It's been very stable. I usually have to be on for more than 6 to 8 hours before I see any major stability problems, and then, it has to be after some long term texture experiment or from hanging around an abused sandbox for a while. (^_^)y