Sex king takes on the hypergrid (Utherverse)
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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07-16-2009 23:51
I came across a link in my friendfeed stream to a story that might be of interest: http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2009/07/sex-king-takes-on-the-hypergrid/Some excerpts: From: someone The battle for the future of the 3D Web is about to get hot… and steamy. Utherverse CEO tells us that he’s planning to launch an all-out attack against the other virtual world platforms out there, with free hosting and a set of free building tools designed to attract business customers.
Brian Shuster, CEO of Utherverse Digital Inc.
Brian Shuster, CEO of Utherverse Digital Inc.
His main target is the hypergrid – worlds based on the OpenSim, RealExtend and Second Life platform which all use the OpenLibMetaverse set of communication standards and can all be accessed by the same set of browsers (now numbering over a dozen), and potentially supporting hypergrid teleports. From: someone Licensing the Utherverse software costs between $50,000 and $2.4 million, said Uther, depending on the size and scope of the project. By comparison, Second Life’s server product – code-named Nebraska – is expected to go for around $50,000 when its officially released at the end of the year. And a hardened, enterprise-ready version of OpenSim integrated with Lotus Sametime is available from IBM for around $50,000 as well. From: someone Utherverse plans to address many of these concerns over the next two months, releasing a tool kit that will let designers make products and environments and upload them to the virtual world.
In addition, the company plans to make free land available to all who want it, and is already giving away tens of thousands of free assets. In addition, it is possible to import three-dimensional objects from other systems, such as CAD programs, and Google’s 3D Warehouse.
“It’s not the easiest thing to do, but yes, we have users that do it,” said Shuster. “We are working on making that toolset better.”
In addition, he said, in November, users will be able to upload animations from other design programs.
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Pussycat Catnap
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07-16-2009 23:59
Someone make a poseball for the appropriate reaction to this so I can camp my avatar on it.
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Couldbe Yue
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07-17-2009 04:57
as a free account there it's pretty dull. Or at least used to be, it must be 12 months since I took a serious look at it. I gather now you can rent apartments for a bit of privacy but you can't really decorate in any kind of meaningful way. as a business it has drawbacks no perms and no ability to change your surroundings. They're aiming at companies that are online sellers rather than inworld. and the worst is no way to protect your inworld intellectual property, virtually everything gets downloaded to the client. http://www.utherverse.com/business/faq.htmlRunning your Business: ugh it's giving me the php error and i can't see where the offending words are so you'll have to go to the site if you want to read it.
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Rygel Ryba
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07-17-2009 05:20
Neat idea - but it's something that has been tried on many occasions since I started really playing around on the web in 1992. It has failed in each instance because, at the end of the day - to use a few of their examples - to need to load a 3D world to shop for pills or look at pictures of T-Shirts.
This is actually a step backwards from the long-term goal, too. At least the old VRML clients could be installed in a web browser like a plugin akin to flash or quicktime. This requires a whole separate download, plus sloppy integration between web and 3D.
The free locations and whatnot might be good to get some businesses to try it out, but that's not really the problem - a lot of businesses are ready to embrace new technologies - especially if they are low cost/low risk attempts. The problem is getting the consumer there. And, just because I CAN buy prescription drugs in a 3D environment, it doesn't mean I WANT to.
I wish them luck, but... I don't see it flying over the long term. It's doomed to fail for the same reasons that all the other attempts to do the exact same thing have never gone anywhere.
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Ciera Spyker
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07-17-2009 06:13
I know Brian from back in the day. He once drove his hummer under water just to prove he could.
I wouldnt write him off so fast if I were all of you.
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Phoenixa Sol
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07-17-2009 06:32
oh, discussing utherverse? Well, here's what I said about it over at flickr, complete with a visual aid: "utherverse. I signed up on there for the free account, and am still in the "welcome center" after spending around an hour trying to get my avatar and profile established. I did so in case SL got so disneyfied, I wind up losing the love for it and at times want something extremely racy. While yes, utherverse is racy, (and maybe this is due to my aging computer) but the avatars look really strange. Yes, I'm spoiled on secondlife's avatars, however when I got a look at my utherverse avi, she um... looked like picasso had taken an avatar face, and threw it onto the body. Skull-like, googly eyes, omg the teeth and jaw seemed to float outside the head. (and none of this was getting my romance level any higher than say a root canal would). Sometimes the eyes or jaw would be completely detached from the head or display someplace weird, like by the left or right EAR. (looking at others, as well as my own). The movement is very herky jerky. It took someone over TEN minutes to explain to me how to dance. (oh this place will NEVER work for me other than for perhaps some cyber in a corner someplace). I saw no plans to allow users to upload animation files. One has to purchase a premium membership to choose from more than a few outfits and possibly to go to different areas. I mentioned more than a few concerns to the person who was helping me, and he begrudgingly admitted there are still lots of bugs and glitches to work out. Sometimes my avatar was so lagged I didn't even know if I had crashed or not.  The only real plus I have seen so far there would be the profiles are set up like myspace profiles on a web page outside of the world itself, and that would be about the only area I'd vote as superior to secondlife." |
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Seven Okelli
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07-17-2009 06:36
From: Ciera Spyker I know Brian from back in the day. He once drove his hummer under water just to prove he could.
So if he offers you a ride... .
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Tore Elcar
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07-17-2009 06:41
I couldn't stand the place. After the MASSIVE download and logging in, it immediately reminded me of Jedi Knight Dark Forces II. Same graphics. I'm not even touching on the rest of it. It really is bad for this day and age.
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Ceera Murakami
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07-17-2009 10:33
FYI - Apparently the SL "Behind the firewall" Corporate solution, IE Nebraska, sells for $65K USD, and includes three servers or so, and 4 to 8 sims to start with. I may have more info on that later, but the price is from a Corp client that is investigating the possibility.
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Marianne McCann
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07-17-2009 11:22
From: Ceera Murakami FYI - Apparently the SL "Behind the firewall" Corporate solution, IE Nebraska, sells for $65K USD, and includes three servers or so, and 4 to 8 sims to start with. I may have more info on that later, but the price is from a Corp client that is investigating the possibility. I was under the belief that was still under an NDA.
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07-17-2009 11:53
From: Marianne McCann I was under the belief that was still under an NDA. Not according to Hypergrid who quoted it I love this quote though From: someone “We’re comparable in size to Second Life,” Shuster said, adding that he’s surprised that his company hasn’t received anywhere near the same level of attention from the public or the media. Maybe its the crappy graphics and the fact its not really free to play and offers no real building or creation facilities
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07-17-2009 12:42
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Infiniview Merit
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07-17-2009 12:44
Wow SL has 16 millions users now!
Even if most of those do not regularly come inworld that is still an impressive number of registrants.
On Utherverse it appears severely limited.
This is from the Utherverse business opportunities FAQ page.
"2- Am I able to decorate or change the props in my space by myself?
Currently business owners do not have the ability to modify props within their businesses."
Apparently people cannot even apply a texture by themselves without getting permission from
the overlords.
Nah not ready for prime time.
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Briana Dawson
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07-17-2009 12:48
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Couldbe Yue
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07-17-2009 12:48
so, the allegation is that he's a scammer and the difference between LL and this guy is?? Oh I know, the FTC hasn't had enough complaints to move on LL yet.
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Infiniview Merit
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07-17-2009 12:51
Oh Yuck! I just read these links. The guy owns the patents on pop up software. Which imo has been one of the scourges of the entire internet. And is working on audio pop ups, unexpected and unrequested audio commercials playing on websites. That make me not want to have anything at all to do with anything this guy touches. |
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Briana Dawson
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07-17-2009 12:51
From: Couldbe Yue so, the allegation is that he's a scammer and the difference between LL and this guy is??
Oh I know, the FTC hasn't had enough complaints to move on LL yet.  |
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Dakota Tebaldi
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07-17-2009 14:03
From: Couldbe Yue so, the allegation is that he's a scammer and the difference between LL and this guy is??
Oh I know, the FTC hasn't had enough complaints to move on LL yet. The difference between LL and this guy is similar to the difference between sitting on the couch playing a game of solitaire whilst sipping lemonade, and sitting as a passenger in a jet that's crashing in the middle of the worst severe thunderstorm on record. LL is a pain to work with, but if you honestly want to insist they're comparable to an internet spam-king and malware proprietor, good luck having anything else you say ever being taken seriously, ever again.
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Couldbe Yue
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07-17-2009 14:36
From: Dakota Tebaldi The difference between LL and this guy is similar to the difference between sitting on the couch playing a game of solitaire whilst sipping lemonade, and sitting as a passenger in a jet that's crashing in the middle of the worst severe thunderstorm on record.
LL is a pain to work with, but if you honestly want to insist they're comparable to an internet spam-king and malware proprietor, good luck having anything else you say ever being taken seriously, ever again. no i don't consider them to be the same. I was just being cranky when I wrote it. as for being taken seriously by people who read any forum, that's never really an objective is it?
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Ceera Murakami
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07-17-2009 14:52
From: Marianne McCann I was under the belief that was still under an NDA. I don't know if that is the case or not. I just know that in a call today, a client discussed SL's "Behind the firewall" Corporate solution with me, and mentioned the entry price and a few details, and no mention of an NDA was made.
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Dakota Tebaldi
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07-17-2009 15:17
From: Couldbe Yue no i don't consider them to be the same. I was just being cranky when I wrote it. Okay, cool. If you had been serious, you would've Failed The Internet Forever.
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Darien Caldwell
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07-17-2009 15:40
Utherverse is just a front-end for Red Light District. Going to the Utherverse site eventually drops you onto Red Light District's website. It's neither new nor a contender for SL. Edit: I see they actually offer Red Light District and Opensim now, I guess this is a pretty recent development. |
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Ceka Cianci
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07-17-2009 19:06
ya i was gonna say it looks like Red Light Center to me..
i tried it and really it's pretty small..maybe a sim size maybe two..i just know it was small..maybe it grew in the last year??
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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07-17-2009 20:24
From: Darien Caldwell Utherverse is just a front-end for Red Light District. Going to the Utherverse site eventually drops you onto Red Light District's website. It's neither new nor a contender for SL. Edit: I see they actually offer Red Light District and Opensim now, I guess this is a pretty recent development. I guess I assume that people interested in virtual worlds already know that Utherverse operates Red Light Center. I attempted to get a discussion of Red Light Center going back in March of 2007: /280/1f/167943/1.htmlI spent a very long time this evening getting Red Light Center to run. It wouldn't connect at first, so I tried reinstalling the software I already downloaded. That failed, so I downloaded the installer again. The installer is one of the kind where the initial download isn't the program, it's just the installer, and once you run that the real downloading begins. I took a nap during the download process, and when I woke up it appeared the download had stalled. So I interrupted that, and try to launch the program, which predictably enough failed, but offered a chance to proceed with a repair installation. The repair proceeded, but upon attempting to launch the program reported failure again. So I ran the installer again, which did at least detect that some things were already present and proceeded with completing the lengthy download and install process. This time the client did run, but was unable to connect. Checking the Red Light Status page, the system was down. Not one of the better virtual world experiences this evening. I've had better luck there in the past on my previous exploratory visits.
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07-17-2009 20:45
From: Ceera Murakami FYI - Apparently the SL "Behind the firewall" Corporate solution, IE Nebraska, sells for $65K USD, and includes three servers or so, and 4 to 8 sims to start with. I may have more info on that later, but the price is from a Corp client that is investigating the possibility. LOL $65k USD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Hell I'll hack the sl servers get the the thing full per for $40k usd in 30 min lol tops lol ok wont take me 30 min but what the hell lol |
