Fashion for height-challenged furries?

I bought one of the cute little Fennec Fox avatars from Lost Furest yesterday and searched my (not very capacious) SL wardrobe to find suitable clothing for her.

Unfortunately, not only because she is SMALL and 'normal' avatars tower over her, but also because of the various attachments that make up her avatar (especially the legs), I could only find a handful of items that she could actually wear and not look silly.

Could some kind person recommend shops and designers whose clothing is suitable for small furry avatars, please?

Thank you

Sparkle

Furries wear clothes?

Pep (Why?)

llol pep

**edit because I misread and typed fracking shoes

I know horses wear shoes.

Pep (Don't most furries have coats already?)

You definitely don't want to overheat by layering too many clothes over a fur coat - but try wandering about Raglan Shire and its satellite sims to find some fine furry fashions.

I prefer to accessorize with hats.

Be sure you buy outfits that have little to no No-Mod attachments. My big avatar is still relatively small and I find that every single item I buy has to be downsized a bit. There are times when I hit a minimum and one prim somewhere is down to 0.010, so I have a script setup to fix that. (^_^)

After figuring out good adjustment skills, I found it rare that I'd get an outfit that wouldn't fit me. (^_^)y

Furs can be very dashing in clothing.



Is the avatar a tiny or just small furry?

Tinies require a special wardrobe, I'm afraid, so visiting tiny shops and regions such as Raglan Shire (mentioned below as well) is a good idea.

However, small avatars are best attired in clothing that is modifiable. Silent Sparrow's clothing is mostly, if not all, modifiable. As is Falln.

Good luck and enjoy your fox!

Thank you to the last three (constructive) responses, they are much appreciated.

@ Puppet
Fennecs have particularly large ears so finding a hat would probably be even more of a challenge than finding clothes I'll make sure to visit Raglan Shire and take a look around. Thanks.

@ Imnotgoing
I'll try to brush up on my adjustment skills (but using a trackball makes that a bit tricky at times)

@ Elric
Great pic! My Fennec is just a small furry, I'd guess around 5ft tall probably, maybe a little less, so she doesn't qualify as a Tiny. I'll be sure to check out Silent Sparrow and Falln. Thanks.

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@ Pep
I'm not stupid and neither are you, so why are you being DELIBERATELY obtuse? Perhaps you simply find it amusing to state the obvious or make fun of first time posters?

ob·tuse (ŏb-tōōs', -tyōōs', əb-)
adj. ob·tus·er, ob·tus·est

1.
1. Lacking quickness of perception or intellect.
2. Characterized by a lack of intelligence or sensitivity: an obtuse remark.

If you are unable to make a constructive contribution to my thread, why not go and troll on someone else's thread, hmmmm?

Sparkle

Welcome to the forums Sparkle. I would point out that I haven't noticed your appointment as a resident moderator recently so I would suggest you keep your recommendations on what I should do in the forums to yourself.

Why do you think I am being obtuse? I asked a valid question to which no answer has been proffered.

You are obviously a sensitive soul, but you should not feel so personally challenged. I approach all posts equally, whether the posters are new or experienced. If it appears that I discriminate against first-timers, then that might be because first-timers are more naive than those who have been around longer.

Pep (If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen.)

Definitely make sure any hats you obtain are modify. Many are not. Same with hair. Due to the majority of attachment points being take up by a fur avatar, you are left with only a few for hats and hair. Simply wearing a hat will often remove your head -- which is comical for the first few seconds and then quite horrifying after that.

With modify hat and hair, you can rez a copy of your head on the ground and then situate hair and/or hat atop your head, linking all the pieces together. Link the head last so that when you wear the conglomeration, it will be positioned perfectly on your avatar.

This image is too massive to post here, but see this: http://www.sge-sl.com/elric_anatine/images/redemption_2.jpg Ears and hat can work just fine.

As for your ears, I've found many hats surprisingly just work well with the ears. Mine are much smaller than yours, but I think larger ears might be easier to accommodate.

I actually enjoying accessorizing my fur self, and I hope you do too!

Cheers.

Yes, Pep is an equal opportunity commenter. It's Jumpy you need to watch out for. Mind, at least they are both consistent and depending on the thread can either be amusing or are best ignored.

Give me an IM in-world, and I'll be happy to give you some pointers on adapting Human clothes, prim hair, and all manner of other things to fit furries. My own furry forms range from a 7 foot tall lady anthro dragon to a 3'11" little girl fox, plus a few of the "Tinies".

Ragline shire is wonderful, but is specificly for the "Tiny" furries - those avatars less than 3'11" tall that are only possible because of an Animation Override in the avatar that folds the actual avatar body up into a tiny ball and hides it with all prim parts. Any clothes designed for "Tinies" will NOT fit your Fennec Fox from Lost Furrest. But you CAN wear just about any sort of Human clothes, with a little effort and imagination.

Any non-prim clothes work fine as-is. With skirts, if you have digitigrade legs, you may need to shorten the skirt or make it poof out more. And of course if you don't choose to have Human-type legs and feet, Human shoes don't work.

At "Rocket City Furmeet" they have a mall for furries, where I have seen shoes designed to work with digitigrade Furry avatars. Most of these are for specific types and species of avatars though, and won't work with all types.

Prim skirts: Make sure they are modifiable. Most are, because people need to adjust the fit. Most prim skirts want to use the same attachment point as a Furry's tail, the Pelvis. And for the same reason - because that point tracks the position of the hips the best. Sometimes you can atach the skirt to the Stomach attachment point instead. Or it may be easier to make a "spare tail" that uses the Stomach attachment point, and keep that in the folder with the skirt. Of course, for any small avatar you'll also need to adjust the length and size of most prim skirts.

Hair: Yes, female furries CAN use prim hair! It just takes some adjustments. Again, make certain the hair is modifiable. A resizing script won't suffice. Lately, most furries I have seen manage to attach the head without using the "Skull" attachment point, leaving that one open for use with hats or prim hair.

Here's me as a Furry, wearing prim hair, and a prim hat, and riding a horse that required the Pelvis attachment point!

Thank you for the (slightly ungracious) welcome, Pep

As you (rather waspishly) point out, I am not a moderator but I am making a polite request that you refrain from contributing to my thread if you have nothing constructive to say.

Furthermore, just because this is my first post here doesn't mean that I've been unaware of these forums, or your (clearly relished) notoriety, reputation for trolling and upsetting/offending people.


Perhaps you might be kind enough to reread my reply to you? As I stated, you clearly cannot make a constructive contribution to my thread and your facetious response


demonstrates exactly why I consider you to be obtuse, not because you lack perception or intellect but because you come across as crassly insensitive (as well as condescending and arrogant)

Are you clear on my position now?

Sparkle

Lovely image, Ceera. I do hope you managed to track down that human

I've recently switched fox avatars to one where I quite enjoy the digitigrade legs, and modify trousers are absolutely essential now (so they can be shortened).

In world I recently encountered "Furs wear wigs???" from a wig creator, and I do believe that the entire concept was lost on him. Suffice to say no purchase will ever be made by myself from his shop as his items are no mod.

A major buying consideration, when a fur, are the permissions. As Ceera mentioned, the system aspect of an ensemble need not necessarily be mod (although I believe they should be), but all other items are best as mod.

One other tip -- have two tails with two different attachment points: stomach and pelvis. This allows you to switch very quickly when you attach a prim clothing item that removes your tail.

If you have been lurking for any length of time then you will know that any suggestion to another as to what and where to post is considered inappropriate and rude. *You* don't lay down the rules for participation in this forum, LL do, even if they choose to apply them selectively.

Furthermore, if you have been conscientious in your lurking then you will know that my reputation for trolling is a figment of the imagination of the very few who (like you, it appears) do not actually know what trolling is. Don't feel too bad though; some of the Lindens are apparently just as ignorant.

I am clear on your position insofar as you have reiterated your hypersensitivity and over-emotional attitude; you might find a few kindred spirits here, although they have mainly tucked their tails between their legs and fled to more comfortable environments.

Pep (I am still waiting for you to answer my question. )

* Don't buy no-mod clothing if you've got prim fur and paws. You need to be able to flare the legs and sleeves over the fur.

* Make a copy of your tail and attach it to an alternate point, so you have tails you can wear on both pelvis and stomach, so you can put it back on after your skirt or prim jacket tails blow it off.

* I often wear my hat slung over my back, which avoids bringing up the whole "where do your ears go" issue (outfit from Bare Rose):

Most of my stuff is from Silent Sparrow and Bare Rose. Bare Rose has a number of furry models and shop assistants who can help you.

As for Pep (Pserendipity Daniels), just put him and his alts on "Ignore". He's this forum's token "evil clown", and while he's intelligent and occasionally has an insightful point to make you have to dig through too much fertilizer to find the pony to make it worth the effort.

I've seen some cute Scottish outfits for tinies - beautiful little kilts and bagpipes and all... that is, if you feel you have a touch of the Celtic Fox-McTiny in you. You can find them at Skate Scotland.

OMG the stomach! *face...meet palm!* >.<"

Thank you, Elric, for your invaluable advice. I now have a much better idea of the criteria for furry clothing and accessories.


I did exactly that and got such a shock that I nearly sprayed tea on my monitor Now I understand why it happened, I can experiment with hair again. Attaching my tail to a different point on my av is another tip which is going to be very useful.

Thank you Ceera for your kind offer. I would like to take you up on it sometime when I'm in SL (I'm on UK time). I'll send you a notecard.

Argent, nice pic! I'm going to check out Bare Rose and Silent Sparrow.

Diera, my av isn't a Tiny, just a small furry but thank you for the tips about Skate Scotland.

Sparkle

My dear Mr. Daniels,

Please forgive me.

It seems that I have done you a very grave disservice in that I mistakenly attributed a sense of imagination to you. However it is now clear to me that you have very little of this invaluable resource.

Returning to your original questions, for which you have repeated demanded an answer and claimed to have received none.


and


This clearly demonstrates that you lack the capacity to imagine what might ensue if a small female Fennec fox, wearing nothing but her fur, strolled through a busy area of Second Life. I invite you to acquire such an avatar, or similar, and do this as an experiment to determine the results. Somehow I suspect that you will have a multitude of reasons as to why you cannot do this (don't bother listing them - just noting one through fifty, will do).


I wouldn't dream of suggesting what and where you should post. I am merely requesting, politely, that you cease posting in my thread if you have nothing constructive to offer.

I note that Ceera Murakama ignored your contributions to this thread completely while Elric and Argent both confirmed my view of you

I also note that you are eloquent and cogent, can write messages using correct grammar without glaring typos and seem to enjoy sparring on these forums

Please don't trouble yourself to reply because I realise that you are trying your hardest to provoke me into further argument. Therefore participating in further discussions with you would be an utter waste of time. If you wish to continue making a fool of yourself with your bullying and bluster, please feel free to provide further entertainment for intelligent readers of this thread.

Be well,

Sparkle.

/me swishes tail happily

Recipe for easy (at least for me, others may have an even easier way) attachment to the "other" attachment point:

1. Copy your original tail in your inventory TWICE.
2. Attach Copy One to yourself, right click and edit the tail, recolour it something rather opposite in tone to what it is now (i.e. if your tail is white, make it dark blue). Reason for recolouring? When aligning the other tail at the other attachment point, they will contrast one another, making aligning easier.
3. Attach Copy Two of your tail to the OTHER attachment point (it may end up in your body, so you may have to attach it to the natural attachment point first and move it, THEN detach and reattach to the OTHER attachment point).
4. Right click and edit your Copy Two tail, move into a position that matches Copy One. This step can be a bit tricky if your tail swishes and flips of its own accord. If it has settings, try to immobilize both tails temporarily.

Detach Copy One and delete. Use your copy of your original tail for the default attachment point and Copy Two of your tail for the OTHER attachment point.

I really do hope this method makes sense.

One example of a pony you might have missed:

I've routinely walked around in PG-rated areas wearing nothing but my own fur:



Or less:

Thought that avatar more often looks like this: (Outfit from Silent Sparrow)

That's fabulous -- great pictures.

And that's also the beauty of being a fur -- one can be naked or clothed, and still be fashionable! Mind, the only time I'm out in the open naked is when in my tiny fox form, and even then I managed to mash my signature Baroque styled wig on him.

Now I think of it, quite a few of my avatars are purely cartoon characters, and never wear pants or anything else below the waist: .

Hi Sparkle! I sent you an IM and a friendship offer in-world. Hope we can meet soon.