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Arminasx Saiman

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02-18-2008 11:12

I've been doing a test of Windlight on my iMac24" this weekend under 10.5.2 to see how it works (128Mb video using recommended settings). And it does, more or less. At first I saw greatly increased frame rates, and then as I continued to use the client, frame rates dropped down to their normal, sad levels of 3-4 fps.

However, the reason for my post is an unusual effect that seems to happen periodically. The client completely locks up for 3-6 seconds (with spinning beach ball) and then returns to normal. Quite un-nerving, especially if you are in an important conversation. The lockup occurs every 2 or 3 minutes. I used to see this happen when rotating the view, but now it happens even when no on-screen changes occur.

Has anyone else witnessed this lockup?

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Missy Malaprop

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02-18-2008 23:22

Windlight or not... I've seen this happen. I haven't found a way to reproduce it on my machine reliably. Occasionally it'll start doing it, and it'll keep doing it no matter what I do. Other times I log on and stay on for 10 hours or more (wether at the keyboard or not) and its still running fine and doesn't do the freezes. I did notice before it was happening a lot, and i went to another area and don't remember seeing it again for a long time. I thin it might be something related to the servers. I complained about it to someone before in SL, and they said theirs was doing the same thing, and they were on Windows.

Sue Saintlouis

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02-19-2008 12:13

Yes, those freezes are in both the regular Mac client and the WL Mac client... a real pain! I'm using the latest of each client.

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Zak Claxton

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Join date: 14 Oct 2006

Posts: 121

02-20-2008 16:31

This isn't Mac-specific at all. It happens to everyone running SL on any platform, from what I understand.

SL is great, but we all know it's far from perfect. This is just one of those imperfect things.

AmiRyu Hosoi

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02-21-2008 02:41

What i have noticed is that the First Look viewer works great if you use smcFanControl 1.23
All you have to do is give the graphic card a bit more cooling and lower your video ram settings. Client never ever freezes or crashes again for me.

The Windlight viewer does lock up with intervals of a few minutes and stays unusable for about 20 secs. After about 15/20 minutes the viewer crashes. Increesing fan speed with smcFanControl and lowering video ram do NOT help at all. Windlight viewer is unusable for me at the moment

smcFanControl:
http://homepage.mac.com/holtmann/eidac/software/page5/page5.html

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Augustine Rothschild

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Oddly enough...

03-09-2008 14:55

I actually prefer WL to the regular client. I get a little bit better performance and more importantly, a little better framerate. I have no explanation for this except it feels a little better to me. I have compared it to both the 1.18.5.3 client and the same client with Barney Boomslang's Nicholaz viewer.

I do use smcFanControl but don't know what effect that plays because my computer turns into a space heater without it.

If anyone has any clues why, I'd appreciate it. I'm curious but, frankly, not complaining. It has also been pretty stable for me...*knocks on wood with a sledge hammer*

The only other quirk that might have anything to do with it, but likely not, is that I run all the SL apps through Xslimmer.

MacPro 2 x 2.66 GHz Dual Core Xeon
6GB Ram
ATY, RadeonX1900 running an Apple 23" display

Gistya Eusebio

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Join date: 14 Mar 2006

Posts: 112

03-12-2008 16:06

From: Arminasx Saiman

I've been doing a test of Windlight on my iMac24" this weekend under 10.5.2 to see how it works (128Mb video using recommended settings). And it does, more or less. At first I saw greatly increased frame rates, and then as I continued to use the client, frame rates dropped down to their normal, sad levels of 3-4 fps.

However, the reason for my post is an unusual effect that seems to happen periodically. The client completely locks up for 3-6 seconds (with spinning beach ball) and then returns to normal. Quite un-nerving, especially if you are in an important conversation. The lockup occurs every 2 or 3 minutes. I used to see this happen when rotating the view, but now it happens even when no on-screen changes occur.

Has anyone else witnessed this lockup?

Yep. See the "Constant Freezing" thread:
/164/99/243572/1.html

Windlight 1.19.0 (80044) on iMac 10.5.2
Arminasx Saiman Registered User Join date: 4 Dec 2006 Posts: 28	02-18-2008 11:12 I've been doing a test of Windlight on my iMac24" this weekend under 10.5.2 to see how it works (128Mb video using recommended settings). And it does, more or less. At first I saw greatly increased frame rates, and then as I continued to use the client, frame rates dropped down to their normal, sad levels of 3-4 fps. However, the reason for my post is an unusual effect that seems to happen periodically. The client completely locks up for 3-6 seconds (with spinning beach ball) and then returns to normal. Quite un-nerving, especially if you are in an important conversation. The lockup occurs every 2 or 3 minutes. I used to see this happen when rotating the view, but now it happens even when no on-screen changes occur. Has anyone else witnessed this lockup? _____________________ Visit Electric Pixels, Caso Milo (192, 114, 134) for SL's most amazing particle effects! CODE http://slurl.com/secondlife/Caso%20Milo/192/114/134/ And get Second Life information and commentary at: CODE http://secondeffects.com
Missy Malaprop ♥Diaper Girl♥ Join date: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 544	02-18-2008 23:22 Windlight or not... I've seen this happen. I haven't found a way to reproduce it on my machine reliably. Occasionally it'll start doing it, and it'll keep doing it no matter what I do. Other times I log on and stay on for 10 hours or more (wether at the keyboard or not) and its still running fine and doesn't do the freezes. I did notice before it was happening a lot, and i went to another area and don't remember seeing it again for a long time. I thin it might be something related to the servers. I complained about it to someone before in SL, and they said theirs was doing the same thing, and they were on Windows.
Sue Saintlouis Registered User Join date: 8 Dec 2006 Posts: 420	02-19-2008 12:13 Yes, those freezes are in both the regular Mac client and the WL Mac client... a real pain! I'm using the latest of each client. _____________________ Sue's and friends The "different" hangout where the people are friendly, the atmosphere relaxed, and the conversations lively! Voice enabled for the best laughs. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Pelham%20Bay/180/212/22
Zak Claxton SL Live Musician Join date: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 121	02-20-2008 16:31 This isn't Mac-specific at all. It happens to everyone running SL on any platform, from what I understand. SL is great, but we all know it's far from perfect. This is just one of those imperfect things.
AmiRyu Hosoi Registered User Join date: 1 Sep 2006 Posts: 103	02-21-2008 02:41 What i have noticed is that the First Look viewer works great if you use smcFanControl 1.23 All you have to do is give the graphic card a bit more cooling and lower your video ram settings. Client never ever freezes or crashes again for me. The Windlight viewer does lock up with intervals of a few minutes and stays unusable for about 20 secs. After about 15/20 minutes the viewer crashes. Increesing fan speed with smcFanControl and lowering video ram do NOT help at all. Windlight viewer is unusable for me at the moment smcFanControl: http://homepage.mac.com/holtmann/eidac/software/page5/page5.html cheers Ami Click for SLX catalog: http://slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&MerchantID=32983 Click to visit the Store: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Virgin%20Island/175/176/30/ Search Second Life: http://secondlife.com/app/search/search.php?cof=FORID%3A11&q=hosoi+ichiba&s=All&sa=Search+The+SL
Augustine Rothschild Registered User Join date: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 8	Oddly enough... 03-09-2008 14:55 I actually prefer WL to the regular client. I get a little bit better performance and more importantly, a little better framerate. I have no explanation for this except it feels a little better to me. I have compared it to both the 1.18.5.3 client and the same client with Barney Boomslang's Nicholaz viewer. I do use smcFanControl but don't know what effect that plays because my computer turns into a space heater without it. If anyone has any clues why, I'd appreciate it. I'm curious but, frankly, not complaining. It has also been pretty stable for me...knocks on wood with a sledge hammer The only other quirk that might have anything to do with it, but likely not, is that I run all the SL apps through Xslimmer. MacPro 2 x 2.66 GHz Dual Core Xeon 6GB Ram ATY, RadeonX1900 running an Apple 23" display
Gistya Eusebio Registered User Join date: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 112	03-12-2008 16:06 From: Arminasx Saiman I've been doing a test of Windlight on my iMac24" this weekend under 10.5.2 to see how it works (128Mb video using recommended settings). And it does, more or less. At first I saw greatly increased frame rates, and then as I continued to use the client, frame rates dropped down to their normal, sad levels of 3-4 fps. However, the reason for my post is an unusual effect that seems to happen periodically. The client completely locks up for 3-6 seconds (with spinning beach ball) and then returns to normal. Quite un-nerving, especially if you are in an important conversation. The lockup occurs every 2 or 3 minutes. I used to see this happen when rotating the view, but now it happens even when no on-screen changes occur. Has anyone else witnessed this lockup? Yep. See the "Constant Freezing" thread: /164/99/243572/1.html

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