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Floyd Gilmour
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07-30-2006 16:38
"Second Life is a 3-D virtual world entirely built and owned by its residents."

This simple sentance on the website should be the definition of this community, but it isnt, its a lie that pulls many people into the community.

If this statement was real, griefing would be allowed, stealing from vendors would be allowed, harrasment would be allowed, the Lindens would only have to handle customer support and serious issues.

Picture this, you are in a Sandbox when a griefer comes towards you, firing missiles.
You try to run away, you call a Police Department someone has set up, they come and trap the griefer and take him away in a Police Vechile.....

If the griefer persists a courtcase ensues which the Jury and Judge are normal users, and if they decide the griefer should be banned they contact Linden Labs who then handle the situation....

That would be a world entirely owned by its residents.

I am not saying this is how things should be run, but I believe that the statement at the top of this thread should be reworded to "Second Life is a 3-D virtual world built entirely by its residents.", what do you, my fellow users, think?

DISCUSS!
Kyrah Abattoir
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07-30-2006 17:31
you have a lot of imagination or took acids recently

if it was true i would prolly be the most dreaded person of sl
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Floyd Gilmour
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07-30-2006 18:23
I have a wild imagination, xD.
The residents do build the world, but they dont run or own it, it would only be right to correct this statement or to actually give the people more power.
Macphisto Angelus
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07-30-2006 18:32
I believe the idea is we own what we build.
Our businesses are run by us, etc.

Look at your town.. people go about life pretty much as they wish provided it does not go beyond the law. When it does, police are involved. I see LL like that. I have very little interaction with LL unless they are needed. Otherwise I go about my business and make my own world.

Maybe that is just my experience.


Enjoy that acid. :D
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Kyrah Abattoir
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07-30-2006 20:02
no its different, in sl the ultimate ruler and all seeing eye is Linden labs

we don't have this in rl, you can't be banned in RL

an equivalent in sl would mean nobody can ever be banned and LL police nothing, like a spectating god , and let us to our fate
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Floyd Gilmour
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07-31-2006 08:33
But SL is not "owned" by its Residents, just like we do not own this planet.
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07-31-2006 10:54
Ah, it was just a minor typo.

"Second Life is a 3-D virtual world entirely built and pwned by its residents."
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Floyd Gilmour
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07-31-2006 14:17
xD!

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07-31-2006 14:29
From: Kyrah Abattoir
you can't be banned in RL



You can in some states.
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Duntroon Donburi
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07-31-2006 14:39
From: Kyrah Abattoir


we don't have this in rl, you can't be banned in RL




errm ever heard of a jail or the death sentence? break the rules and you get banned/jailed. some bans /jailings are temporary some arent. and if the death sentence isnt the ultimate banning, what is?
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07-31-2006 14:41
From: Duntroon Donburi
errm ever heard of a jail or the death sentence? break the rules and you get banned/jailed. some bans /jailings are temporary some arent. and if the death sentence isnt the ultimate banning, what is?

Surgical castration?
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07-31-2006 14:47
From: Duntroon Donburi
errm ever heard of a jail or the death sentence? break the rules and you get banned/jailed. some bans /jailings are temporary some arent. and if the death sentence isnt the ultimate banning, what is?


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Kyrah Abattoir
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07-31-2006 17:55
From: Duntroon Donburi
errm ever heard of a jail or the death sentence? break the rules and you get banned/jailed. some bans /jailings are temporary some arent. and if the death sentence isnt the ultimate banning, what is?


no death sentence in my country, we don't punish assassins by becoming assassins ourself ^^
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07-31-2006 19:11
LL has said plenty of hypocritical things in the past.
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Duntroon Donburi
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07-31-2006 22:18
From: Kyrah Abattoir
no death sentence in my country, we don't punish assassins by becoming assassins ourself ^^


hehe so skip the issue I am actually raising :) - what about jailing isnt that a type of banning?
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Kyrah Abattoir
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08-01-2006 00:12
jail is supposed to be a way for criminal to get punished for their crimes and to prepare their re insertion in the society after.

ban from sl is more like getting outcasted
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Macphisto Angelus
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08-01-2006 01:26
ah! But RL jail means to be taken off the streets and denied access to society until the determined time is reached.
SL ban does exactly the same thing. Takes the banned one out of society for a season to think on thier crime and hopefuly not repeat it.

Of course the SL banned one can freely move about the real world but that is not really the point hehe.
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Selador Cellardoor
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08-01-2006 03:59
From: Floyd Gilmour
I have a wild imagination, xD.
The residents do build the world, but they dont run or own it,


Thank providence for that!

I've been in a virtual world that was partly run by residents, and I was *very* glad to leave it.
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08-01-2006 07:23
From: Macphisto Angelus
ah! But RL jail means to be taken off the streets and denied access to society until the determined time is reached.
SL ban does exactly the same thing. Takes the banned one out of society for a season to think on thier crime and hopefuly not repeat it.

Of course the SL banned one can freely move about the real world but that is not really the point hehe.


good point.
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08-01-2006 08:26
From: Kyrah Abattoir
jail is supposed to be a way for criminal to get punished for their crimes and to prepare their re insertion in the society after.


exactly the same as being banned from SL - they get banned / punished and hopefully learn a lesson and prepare to be reinserted. also jail does have life sentences and all too :)

From: Kyrah Abattoir

ban from sl is more like getting outcasted



sure outcasting is another form of banning

I used to work in a pub - we had certian people on a "no access" list - they where banned :)
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Kyrah Abattoir
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08-01-2006 08:53
From: Duntroon Donburi
exactly the same as being banned from SL - they get banned / punished and hopefully learn a lesson and prepare to be reinserted. also jail does have life sentences and all too :)




sure outcasting is another form of banning

I used to work in a pub - we had certian people on a "no access" list - they where banned :)

exepted in sl there is no reinsertion for a banned person
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Duntroon Donburi
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08-01-2006 08:59
From: Kyrah Abattoir
exepted in sl there is no reinsertion for a banned person


not all bans are permanent - just like in RL, SL bans people temporarily and permantly.
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08-01-2006 21:10
From: Kyrah Abattoir
exepted in sl there is no reinsertion for a banned person



Do you have "Life Sentences" where you live?
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Kyrah Abattoir
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08-01-2006 22:25
yes but its usually cutted off for good behavior
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08-02-2006 00:55
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