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SL is not fascist.

Torley Linden
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01-05-2006 06:23
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
So you are of the "SL is castor oil" faction, eh?

A spoonful of castor oil helps the medicine go down.


Well, that and manganellos. (Which sounds like a Japanese comic mixed with a musical instrument.)
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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01-05-2006 06:27
From: Aliasi Stonebender
Anshe is a business.

Ulrika might be considered a demagogue (either the positive or negative definition, depending on how you feel about her ;) ) but there's no concerted movement to fulfill her every command.


Posts such as this help the pieces fall into place.
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Aliasi Stonebender
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01-05-2006 07:53
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
Posts such as this help the pieces fall into place.


I have nothing to say to that fnord.
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Sharpstick Mercy
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Pure Capitalism I say
01-05-2006 19:33
From what I have seen, SL is pure capitalism, squared.

The motive for creating SL - to provide a services/comodity that people were unaware they needed before its introduction, yet were willing to pay money for once they were introduced to it.

And what is that comodity? The chance to provide a services/comodity that people were unaware they needed before its introduction, yet were willing to pay money for once they were introduced to it.

... now if only we could create a SL inside SL, Third Life...

Capitalism Cubed!!!
Marcus Richelieu
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Join date: 27 Nov 2004
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01-23-2006 10:58
Hmmm...

First, I didnt understand what did you mean by "SL"... after reading all the coments I concluded y ou mean Linden Labs. Am I right? Maybe I am wrong and you are talking about the SL world.

Here we have a definition of facism:

"A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism."

English is second language... I would looked at www.rae.es but I look in enlgish sites to prevent translations. You can check the full definition in http://www.bartleby.com/61/57/F0045700.html

There a several definitions of facism but most of them include some terms of interest in this discussion:

- Government: well, the lindens dont act as a real government... more like Gods. They create the world (with what you can call "physical rules" and a legal agreement you must accept and respect while you are in SL). So I am not convince the Lindens act as a ral goverment, they rarely (if they ever) act as justice system, neither as a police service (more than to enforce the agreement and the respect of the "physical laws" they created, as for example prevent some hacker to denial de service of the grid by using a bug). They dont charge taxes in exchange of public services (they charge for the mantain the world running but not for public services), etc, etc, etc.

- Dictatorship. I lived in a country with a long history of totalitarism... I don't think this world is under a totalitarism goverment. But each of us can think whatever desire.

- Strict economics controls. Nop, I don't see that neither.

- Censorship. I can run naked in mature sim and no one can't prevent it!!!! :p This is the world were the idea that "my freedom ends where start the other's freedom" is more strength than ever. Where is the censorhip?

- Use of force and terror. Is anyone of you under terror?

- Racism. Where? Not in SL... more than that the agreement enforced by the Lindens prohibit racism. Here we are all equal!

- Belligerent. Are we at war? OMG! Will I have to be a conscript!

We should be careful when we use some words liek facist. If we call the Linden Facists because they impose just one law, that doesnt violate any human right (on contrair, the law they impose protect privacy and fights racism), then how will we call people like Hitler or Stalin? Hype-uber-huge-Facists?

What I mean is that when we use some words too easily we run the risk of making some people to forget what the real facism is.

I am not sure if I am explaining my point clearly... just ask questions or disagree with me :)
Corvus Drake
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02-17-2006 14:50
If you stop seeing LL as a facist government and more like a God-entity, you'll get a better bearing of comparison.

And God's done a lot more descriminatory, destructive, and hateful stuff than LL has ever done.

So IMHO, until two Mature islands get nuked because of their nature and some guy named Lot has his entire buddy list worth of people banned, his house destroyed, all his skins covered in oozing sores, and his neighbors stealing his land from him, all just to satisfy a bet between Torley and Bob, I'd say LL is doing one better than IRL.
SuezanneC Baskerville
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02-17-2006 17:27
From: Corvus Drake
If you stop seeing LL as a facist government and more like a God-entity, you'll get a better bearing of comparison.
So you are saying that LL does not exist? ;)
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