" Also I think the discount levels at the large sizes are too high."

I agree that eliminating the tier discount would not automatically end land flipping, but it would make it less profitable, causing smart business people like yourself to do it less. If that happened too fast there would be a supply glut, which would cause property values to fall, which would make it even less profitable and so on.

It is not the fact of eliminating the tier discount that would create the problem, it is the effect of doing it too suddenly that I am concerned about.

I've believed for a long time that content mavens will be the real success stories in the long run, because as a provider of content (and "entertainment value" in general) your interests are alligned with LL's, rather than merely co-existing. If you are successful, they are successful. But the success of land barons does not contribute to LL's success at all, in fact to some extent it breeds resentment from a small sector of the population, which is actually counterproductive to LL's interests.

Buster

I believe she said "tier discount" which is not the same as tier cost. The 10% discount for group owned land is what is being referred to. This will hurt a LOT of people.

Isablan,

What's at issue is not the 10% group discount. Philip mentioned that he would like to see a more linear tier stucture, a flat per m price for tier. Someone who owns a 512 m plot would pay the same price per meter as someone who owned 500,000 meters.

I'm talking about the idea of flattening the tier cost curve, not the 10% discount. As per:

I know Schwan, I was responding to Eralas Night and forgot to include the quote for reference ....

My bad

lol equally my bad. I'm spending waaaayyy too much time in these forums this morning because I'm avoiding all my regular political blog and forum haunts in a self preservation effort to not deal with the screaming, foot stomping, wailing, teeth gnashing and cheering over the SCOTUS vacancy.

Burying my head here in the sand of the SL forums

Yes, I see where she may have been talking specifically about the 10% group dividend of land, removal of that would be imo counterproductive to LL's long term stance of making content providers the be all, end all of SL.

However, I was not, a smoothing of the curve in tier fees would benefit those same content providers. Again, my opinion.

okay I've not read ALL the topic, but i've read a lot of it.

Second life is a TOTAL CPATILISTISM ecomomy. Almost no restaints whatsoever, heck I can even buy PEOPLE if they are willing to sell them selves to me.

the land baron's will even themselves out in natural setting, now granted this isn't a antrual setting, since SL can potentally have unlmited land.

However if LL makes a DEFIANTE limit on the land, then naturally all the land will get sold eventually. At that point, it works jsut like real life real estate, prices forever go up, and the land barons have to SELL land if they wanna make any money which eventaully breaks thier hold.

In short all LL has to do is sit on on thier butts and NOT make any more land( or maybe een delete some on the unclaimed land.), and the situation will resolve its self, and inflation will start, which is good for those who are already here......

SL is entertainment software. Anyone who invests serious money in this is insane, and the fact you can make real money off of is a freak accident of SL history. The TOS clearly state that the linden dollar has no value, your objects have no value, and LL reserves the right to delete everything on a whim.
Like a friend of mine said, you can make a lot more money by investing in real land.
And seriously, next time one of you has $40,000 dollars burning your pocket you can hire enough chinese programmers to make you a whole new SL

While SL is entertainment software, you are dead wrong if you beleive that making real money from SL was an accident. SL was built around the premise of real money being exchanged for virtual content, read the white papers. The idea that content creator's would get real world compensation for creating content is the premise behind SL.


I beleive this is to cover LL against litigation. It does however make a considerable risk for any investor and makes SL one of the riskiest investments I know of. I beleive this is a hinderance to SL's growth, but unfortunately in the litigation happy society we live in I see no way around this. Especially considering the fact that inworld assets will/do exceed the value of LL.



I got the $40K - find those programmers and put together a plan. I doubt this can be done.


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I can handle the chinese programmers....just get a certified check in the amount of 40K and give me a year ...we'll have to do this work in the bahamas so it might take a lil longer

If you have 40k To spend I've got much better thigns to tell you do with it then make clone of an existing VR program............

I would personlly open an arcade amusement park( flat daily fee), that way you don't ahve to pay each machine, ect........

meanwhile, as I siad before, hopefully the land problem will deal with itself.......