Remove the Hindrances to Event Support and Promotion Of Diversity

There are a number of reasons why there aren't diversity of events.

People bitch about Tringo and Slingo and Sexay Avatars but they don't make quality events.

Why?

Because they have no incentive?

And why don't they? Because there is no financial reward for doing so that can come from any other place than the Linden teat with its strained-through pablum of events-grants for mentors/instructors.

The rules about event listing are the very things that make it impossible to have better quality, more interesting events.

How can that be? Because the punitive, repressive, *socialist* approach and *social engineering* approach is never the way to promote diversity and compelling interest.

Instead, *freedom* for event posters, including those who have a commercial motive in sponsoring events, will help create a better landscape of events with more pluralism than Tringo.

The message the Lindens send now is a horrid one: get paid to be an instructor, teach scripting, invent a Tringo game, sure, we'll reward you with $500 and give you all the RL media attention in the world to help sell your RL-related invention.

But *play* Tringo or *host Tringo* in game, we give you the back of our hand because we think you're too lowbrow.

When the Lindens can stop needing the tiny anti-business minority clamouring to sanitize and pablumize events, they'll get the diversity they crave.

But for that to happen, I have to be able to put an ad out, sell a product, accept a posrate. In other words, I have to do all those things that they currently ban in events posting.

Without any coding, without any hassle, the Lindens have only to remove their repressive rhetoric from the events board right now, and they will be transformed.

Once businesses can use events forthrightly and honestly to pitch products, services, and buildings, there will be those kind of commercial events that people will be interested in just as much as Tringo. But more to the point, when businesses can thrive better and have product and ad placement on events, they'll be more inclined to sponsor plays, poetry, discussions, art shows, talent shows, musical appreciation -- you name it.

Business can be persuaded to support the arts and the "high-brow" entertainment diversity that Linden Labs craves to be able to show off their product to their high-end users among the tekkie and media elite.

But for that to happen, they have to have all this repressive stuff removed from their path. They need to have the freedom to place a sign, a product, or urge a posrate in order to move the business along as an incentive to providing the non-profit "council of the arts" kind of support.

The screaming that certain old socialist oldbies on the Red Diaper circuit still do about "too much commercialization" will subside as the majority of players start to see that diversity and the improvement of the entertainment and arts content will occur.

When businesses can not only get dwell (never enough for a business plan) but product placement which will equal sales, building a customer base, etc. they will fall over each other to sponsor both commercial and non-commercial events.

I want to remind LL of their demographics. We've just read that they are 18-34 women in the USA, and I bet they'll be more on the 34 side (and lying about their age) than they are on the 18 side). Those are people who want clothes, shopping, bling, romance, houses, games, etc. That means they want businesses, commerce, events, entertainment. Yeah, I know there's tekkie girls too who love tekkie stuff like vehicles and kewl footwear in sandboxes...oops...I guess that is just another form of dress-up too...well, you know what I mean...sure, there are plenty of tekkie girls who don't want bling and romance, but the point is, they aren't putting this show on just for 20-something European males used to socialist systems. SO they need to figure out where their bread is buttered!

Jarod Godel: What do the Lindens think of the "techie/wiki" community? Or the Feted/Fetid Inner Core?
Robin Linden: I think it's an interesting myth.

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you never let facts get in the way do you?


volumes about your math ability

· Each month, Linden offers a $US reward to the 2% of landowners who receive the most dwell - in proportion to the dwell their properties received. In August of 2004, US$2,308 was distributed to 36 landowners.
from: /16/ff/23421/1.html

April had 73 di awards.
from: /3/82/45416/1.html

x = total number of land holders
73 / x = 2 / 100
x = 73 * ( 100 / 2 )
x = 3650

total population = 28471
from: http://secondlife.com/

3560 / 28471 = .128201 - 12.8201 %

ookook

Yeah, I looked at that. I'm still not persuaded, sorry, I keep a critical mind, and don't just open up my mouth and take the spoonful of pablum LOL



This suggests to me that this figure of the dwellopers isn't a raw figure of 2 percent of all landowners in the game, but just what it says -- two percent of those who receive most dwell in proportion to the dwell their properties received.

In other words, that figure is a subset of all landowners. That's how I read it.

I'd like to know if their definition of landowners includes tier-payers or the free 512s and the free 4096s.

Honestly, why fool around with back-ending into this figure by squeezing the numbers in the dwellopers thing like some Masonic sect?

Just ask the Lindens to tell us how many players own land. Full stop. Just keep working that bit.

For those of you playing at home, this (PABLUM) is the Prokofy Neva Dubious Word of the Day! Notice how he uses the word in with all the poise of an epileptic marmoset. You can tell that he's just learned the word and really eager to use it. When his Word of the Day calendar defined this gem this morning, he knew that his day would not be complete without somehow forcing it into one of his diatribes.

On behalf of the community, I'd like to thank you, Prokofy Neva. You've taught me a word which succintly describes your posting history.

Masonic sect? Did you fail algebra in grade school, Prokofy? We're not asking you to solve any coupled differential equations, just some algebra. All we ask is that you learn to read critically and that you don't automatically assume that anything you don't understand is wrong.

Let's go over this from square one. The developer incentive award is given to the top 2% of ALL landowners. Your inability to read the line "a $US reward to the 2% of landowners who receive the most dwell - in proportion to the dwell their properties received" is really the sticking point here. The award goes to the top 2% of ALL landowners! It's not a subset of anything. It's ALL landowners. The Lindens sum all of the dwell/traffic received by that 2% and then determine how much of that traffic each person contributed. They then divide the reward based upon that figure. This is the "proportion to the dwell their properties received" portion of the quote.

What's bling?

And can we try it at home?

Casting your pearls before swine, folks.

Hmm. Now there's an interesting thought... would it be 'swine' since it isn't plural? I'll correct myself -- casting your pearls before a muck-racking porcine. There. Much better.

Hey... Why should the muck-racking porcine get all the pearls? or is that only a proportion of the muck-racking porcine, maybe the top 2% curliest tailed muck-racking porcine.

You want the bling? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE BLING!!!

yes! we want diversity in our tringo games!

one swone.......two swine. casting your pearls before a swone.

I wonder if people ever actually read the event listings.


There are quality events almost everyday. The problem with a quality event is they take time. It takes hours and hours and hours to plan a fashion show. There are several every week, but you can't have a fashion show every hour like you can have Tringo, because fashion shows take prior planning, real effort and some talent. There is live Jazz and Folk Music performed in SL, but again, it takes prior planning, effort and talent, you can't have those every hour. There are book clubs and pseudo intellecual meetings etc, but again you can't have those every hour. There are plenty of quality events, but they will always be out number by the bullshit because the bullshit is easy. Such is real life. There are only so many Gallery openings a week, even in a major city with thousands of artists, but there is an ass shaking party at a club every night.


In conclusion, quit your bitching.

Wait, where is this written? Interesting, alot of people I know are under the impression SL is made up of mostly men.

I would love to discuss ways to improve the quality of events.

I'm not going to do it in a thread with so much absurd, acidic and mean spirited crap (like the quoted jewel) in the thread starting message. There will be too much shit fight to have a useful discussion.

Buster

I think it's helpful to have really sharp, pointed comments to really name things for what they are. There's really no better term than I can come up with than "social engineering" to describe what the Lindens do with this events stuff. It's really quite a marvel, once you start it.

And socialism -- subsidizing, having a vaunted state that puts its privileges and rights over and above individual rights and liberties -- well, I can't think of a quicker and handier definition.

Skip over that line if you like and focus on the issue at hand:

-- anti-business climate in SL which LL both tolerates and sometimes fosters
-- anti-business allergies and even hatred among small and vocal players' group
-- heavily restrictive rules on events listing that make it impossible for businesses to
step in and pick up the slack where the Lindens subsidies tap out.

Call it "subsidies" and call it "social democracy" of that makes you feel better, Buster, the point is, think about the very real problem we have with the stranglehold on business in this game. It's an appalling situation, and you wonder how on earth they think they'll get investors?

No. Read what the Lindens put up on their brand-new website cover.

Well interesting. Pablum is a french trademark.

Pabulum, on the other other hand has three defiitions: 1. a cereal; 2. intellectual sustencance; or 3. somne thing (usually in speech or writing) that insipid, bland or tasteless.

Interesting. A word with an Ironic Definition

You beat me to it. What's broken with the current Event structure needs to be discussed and some possible solutions determined.

Having that discussion in the rhetoric filled morass of Prokovy is impossible. He/she manages to alienate nearly everyone, even when a topic has merit.

Have the discussion, Surreal, and don't make up excuses not to have it.

I've put it all out there, now you add something to it instead of subtracting.

Pablum and pabulum are alternative spellings of the word. It is defined as "bland or insipid intellectual fare, entertainment, etc." in my dictionary.

Sorry, I didn't bring my shovel and I'm not interested in the pseduo-political tone of every thread you get involved in. You've poisened this thread, as usual.

Surreal,

The choices made to suppress events are pretty politically, really, and cultural at the very least.

start a new thread? I will.

If I may:

Not to fan the flames or anything, but don't be too harsh on Prok. I find him as acidic as the next guy and know him to be as tantrum-tastic in avi as he is in text but I see him as a very useful tool for a fledgling world.

He basically fills a roll here in SL that cannot go unfilled. His scrolling novellas and eagerness to roll around in the filth that is argument and discourse is, in fact, a force towards maintaining the critical-mass of discussion. It's a very dirty job but somebody has to do it!

Somebody has to get it wrong loudly and in public , sometimes with arms flailing and skin peeling, in order for us to maintain a sense of contrast and eventual progress. Somebody has to be acidic for us to enjoy the sweet. Somebody has to be mean and over-zealous for us to enjoy progressive peace. Somebody has to be unapologetic for us to appreciate respect.

Some of the best ideas and discussions have only been presented out of reply to his long-winded masterpieces of cruft and creed.

Give the man some space and make sure he has plenty of carrots. I for one dread the day he gets bored of these forums and takes his machinegun with him. I feel we will all think about things less and with a diminished sense of responsibility. I lift my glass in salute.

~Lefty Belvedere

Well, said, Lefty, except this bit LOL:



The poets are the antennae of the race, dude.

On this events bork, I *do* have it right for sure. They *do* have unnecessary and even damaging limitations on events.

These restrictions were put on for specious reasons, to solve a problem that could have been solved otherwise, and without attention to impact. They need review.

I don't agree, and currently I don't have the free time to get into long winded debates. I'm about to make my second international move, and shortly after that a cross-country move, so I'm just skimming the forums. I will be doing events in the fall however, and I am going to address what I think is wrong and suggest solutions when I get better situated.

It dawned on me today something that troubles me a great deal about the way you write. You endless target people you feel are elitist, yet you write like an elitist.

Let me give you an example. Remove the Hinderances to Event Support and Promotion of Diversity.

You could have titled it: Let's Change Rules that Make it Hard to Fund Events.

Not precisely the same meaning, but it gets to the point and is easy to read.