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Developer Incentives and Deeded Estate Land

Lindar Lehane
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05-08-2005 09:30
So consider the "private sim" with sub-leasers not only more-than-paying-your-tier, but even refunding you the purchase price and being compelled by this to find replacement renters when they go.

And if this made a specially high contribution to getting the developer incentive, as it seems ?

My God. That would make it the jewel-in-the-crown of SL commerce.

Click. Click. Click. Into place. No wonder shes fighting so hard, and risking damaging her reputation.

And doesn't the way this incentive seems to be shared mean that its impossible for anyone to catch her now ?

Here comes total monopoly and domination ?

Aaa...aaa...aaa...aaagh!

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Edit: Is this paranoia, or cold hard fact?. Only more data and a spreadsheet can tell us.
Come on - developer incentive receivers - we need more input - in all our interests.

Whats your ranking in this months list (Blazes "r";) ?
And how much did you get (Blazes "n";) ?
With enough data we can have a chance of reconstructing the curve (Blazes "n(r)";).
Anshe Chung
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05-08-2005 11:24
My costs for sponsoring events and operating sims like Central Park, The Forest, A'ksha Desert or places like Club China Dolls have always been considerably higher than dwell money or developer awards I received. But even if I would not have those costs to take care of, we are talking less than 5% of my tier costs!
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blaze Spinnaker
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05-08-2005 11:30
5% huh?

Well, I'd be interested in hearing from some of the other dwellopers as to what they're getting.
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Lindar Lehane
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05-08-2005 12:28
From: Anshe Chung
My costs for sponsoring events and operating sims like Central Park, The Forest, A'ksha Desert or places like Club China Dolls have always been considerably higher than dwell money or developer awards I received. But even if I would not have those costs to take care of, we are talking less than 5% of my tier costs!


Thank you to Anshe. 5%. Nice to have, but not enough to influence ones whole business strategy, or give one "lift-off" and an unassailable lead.

I still would like to get this into my spreadsheet, though, and see its implications. Blaze's calculation, though crude, is still reverberating in my mind. We all define things slightly differently, and maybe Anshe's definition isn't quite mine.

I really think LL should just put the money in the list. Why not ? Its "government" money thats going out, why should it be hidden ?

In a way its good to hear Anshe's figure. We can propose alternatives (like awarding on /m traffic) without risk of turning the big guys completely upsidedown financially.

MORE data , please anyone? r? n?
Schwanson Schlegel
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05-08-2005 12:31
Why would it be fair to give developer awards based per meter?
Seems like a crappy deal for large land holders and incentive to tier down.
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Lindar Lehane
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05-08-2005 12:52
I spose it depends what the awards are meant to encourage, Schwansen.
What exactly ARE they meant to encourage? I cant find any clear statement. Anyone know?
FlipperPA Peregrine
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05-09-2005 05:50
From: blaze Spinnaker
25% is a lot .. it's pure profit.

Still, if you're 2/3's down the list, that means at least 2/3s of all people make at least $40.

2/3 of 73 is 140/3 = 47 * 40 = 1880. That leaves $3420 potentially left over.

If Anshe has 34 sims then that is $6800 / month or 50% of her tier fee.


25% was a VERY high ceiling number I was picking.

You're also conveniently assuming that $3420 would go ENTIRELY to Anshe, instead of spread out amongst all those along the list, which is quite insane. Remember, we don't know the formula. You and I both know she's not having 50% of her tier paid by LL! There are three kinds of lies... lies, white lies, and statistics.

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FlipperPA Peregrine
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05-09-2005 05:53
I don't mind people knowing a lot more about my RL than most. I'll post the exact figure I get from the developer's bonus when I do receive it, but I wouldn't expect many others to be as forthcoming. Still, if we could get 5 people (from the top, middle, and bottom) of the list to share, we could paint a more accurate picture. Until then, Blaze, I truly think your speculation is unfair and simply an abuse of hysterical mathemetics. :-)

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05-09-2005 05:57
From: FlipperPA Peregrine
I don't mind people knowing a lot more about my RL than most. I'll post the exact figure I get from the developer's bonus when I do receive it, but I wouldn't expect many others to be as forthcoming. Still, if we could get 5 people (from the top, middle, and bottom) of the list to share, we could paint a more accurate picture. Until then, Blaze, I truly think your speculation is unfair and simply an abuse of hysterical mathemetics. :-)

Regards,

-Flip



I have no problems in sharing :)
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Lindar Lehane
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05-09-2005 05:59
I don't think he was LYING, was he Flip?

Just putting up a first speculative calculation we could all comment on. He did go on to recognise we desperately needed some more sample points to get any sort of good guess at the curve shape. But yes, assuming all the rest went to the top person is not a good assumption, because it obviously ain't so. Is that what he did? I can't remember.

To me, although it is obviously way high, it was a trigger that the figure might be big enough to be interesting. ie, its not negligeable. Though we are not progressing much atm. Looks like we have
"between 5 and 25% of tier, ignoring specific crowd attracting costs."

Do you need any such costs in a private sim, if your residents get you points when they just potter ? Oh dear, I just don't know enough to judge. If only we had a comprehensive manual.
Lindar Lehane
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05-09-2005 06:01
Huge thanks to both. We wait with our spreadsheets at the ready :p
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