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Suggection for grid attacks handeling and more

Hunting Hare
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Join date: 6 Sep 2004
Posts: 15
05-01-2006 06:53
From: Draco18s Majestic
Problem:
PayPal will let two paypal acounts be backed by the same bank acount.
Not the same credit card, but I'm positive that you can make multiple accounts backed by the same savings/checking acount.
(Someone verify/refute this?)


I can't even get PayPal to let me use a checking account and a savings account on different accounts (both with different numbers, but the savings account number is 00 and then the checking account number) because they strip all leading zeroes. I've been a member of theirs since 1999 (when they were still doing payments-by-PalmPilot); you would think that in seven years they'd figure it out.
Hunting Hare
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Join date: 6 Sep 2004
Posts: 15
Sounds like what Netcom did...
05-01-2006 06:56
From: Mickey McLuhan
How about this? We all have to use a credit card or celphone to register.
These schmucks are registered users, so LL must have the credit card numbers for them.

How about adding something in the agreement that says "If you do something to fuck up the grid, you will be charged a metric buttload of money. We WILL keep hitting your credit card, every week, until this buttload (metric) is paid." (BTW, it's a metric buttload, 'cuz it's 2.2 times bigger! *grin*)

I know I would sign that agreement.

Having said that, I am keeping in mind the chance the person responsible does it accidentally (I know it might not be likely, but it could happen, as has been discussed at length here on the forums).
Basically, if they have enough proof to go to the authorities, they should hit the guy right in the wallet.

Dunno... just a thought.


Sounds like what Netcom did way-back-when, when they had accounts that were caught spamming. The TOS stated that they would be charged a large amount per spam mail sent out; they usually tried to dispute the charge, but Netcom always prevailed because of the TOS that the user had to agree to in order to use the system.

It did make Netcom the most spam-free of the major providers at the time.
Draco18s Majestic
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Join date: 19 Sep 2005
Posts: 2,744
05-02-2006 22:12
From: Hunting Hare
I can't even get PayPal to let me use a checking account and a savings account on different accounts (both with different numbers, but the savings account number is 00 and then the checking account number) because they strip all leading zeroes. I've been a member of theirs since 1999 (when they were still doing payments-by-PalmPilot); you would think that in seven years they'd figure it out.


Heh. My revent forray into making a PayPal backed by bank account has turned up with, "Well, where did the money go if it didn't get to me? I did the numbers right...." (bank account starts with "10" and by money I mean the 60 odd cents they use to verify your account).
Morgaine Dinova
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Join date: 25 Aug 2004
Posts: 968
05-04-2006 11:48
You can't IP-ban griefers in any sane way, for two reasons:

- when they're on a dynamic IP, griefers and attackers can just relog to get another one;

- innocent people will suffer the IP bans on picking up those old IPs, and their numbers will grow and grow as more people get banned, and this will create an ever-increasing load on LL support staff ("My account doesn't work.";).

So, it's both ineffective, unfair, and a support hassle for LL.

A far better approach is to design-in defences and resilience against griefing in all its forms into the SL infrastructure. It takes more thought, but solidly designed engineering solutions are always a better approach than passing the buck to the poor support staff.
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