If it's in the interface, we should have script access to it. I say make getters/setters for everything in Appearance.
But finishing script access to object attributes should be more important.
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Cienna Rand
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07-16-2004 10:53
If it's in the interface, we should have script access to it. I say make getters/setters for everything in Appearance.
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Chromal Brodsky
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07-16-2004 10:57
Originally posted by Grim Lupis Ahh, you mean you don't have a use or immediate need for it, therefore you don't/won't/can't see why anyone else possibly would/could. By 'we' I mean simply the system as a whole-- SL has existed without this. I'm not making statements about possible positive uses about it. I'm sure they exist. Originally posted by Jack Digeridoo Please close this thread. It is degenerating into bashing LL. I want llGetSex() if you don't want it, leave it at that, but cut the crap. Where do you see LL-bashing? Certainly not from me. I made a statement about SL, not Linden. Let me reiterate in manner that will perhaps be less confusing: SL has begun attracting users who have little to contribute beyond the trite values they epouse. There, Is that clear enough? |
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Jack Digeridoo
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07-16-2004 11:02
Originally posted by Chromal Brodsky I made a statement about SL, not Linden. Thank you Peter Notron. _____________________
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eltee Statosky
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07-16-2004 11:03
Originally posted by Chromal Brodsky SL has begun attracting users who have little to contribute beyond the trite values they epouse. There, Is that clear enough? thats the problem guys... this is exactly what *you* are doing :/ i don't think this is a needed function myself too.. i think LL has better things to do... but seriously yer basically yer espousing yer values and stomping all over someone's question with them... if yer against it too guys.. a no with the simple warning 'it could be abused' suffices... stomping is somethin i know both michi an chromal you both want less of in game :/ _____________________
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Chromal Brodsky
ExperimentalMetaphysicist
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07-16-2004 11:51
Originally posted by Chromal Brodsky SL has begun attracting users who have little to contribute beyond the trite values they epouse. There, Is that clear enough? Okay, I'm letting this get out of hand. For that, I'm sorry to anyone who has read this far in. Nothing constructive will come from statements like my own, quoted above. I made my point pretty umambiguously two or three posts ago, there's really nothing for me to add. I hope it all works out for the best, whatever that might be. |
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Veloso Lippmann
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Wrong way to add this function
07-16-2004 15:13
There does not have to be a new llGetGender() method. A much more consistent approach is a DATA_GENDER constant for use with llRequestAgentData().
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Christopher Omega
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07-16-2004 15:45
The problems with statements like these is that they are implying that we have no way to do this within the current LSL featureset.
There is, and Jack Digeridoo fails to see this approach as reasonable. I have discussed this approach earlier in the thread. I really dont understand why Jack feels that it is unintuitive. Allowing users CHOICE *is* intuitive. The way you implement how your script reflects that choice is up to you. You can make it astoundinly unintuitive, asking the same user for their gender with each and every action that relates to it, or you can cache or broadcast the result, which allows an interface almost as seemless as having an llGetSex API call would be. If your object entails two objects communicating with each other, broadcast the result of the user's choice to objects around the user, and allow objects interacting with the user's object to ask the user's object (not the user, *that* would be redundant) what the user's gender is. Its all a matter of how lazy you want to be. Originally posted by Grim Lupis Ahh, you mean you don't have a use or immediate need for it, therefore you don't/won't/can't see why anyone else possibly would/could. Note that I don't have an immediate use/need for it, either, but I at least realize that I'm not the only person in SL that ever has new and interesting ideas. Originally posted by Ironchef Cook Jesus what's the big deal? He's asking for a simple function that gets the status of an avatar. Nothing has been taken away. Not everyone has to use it. I support this feature. More functions and less nerfs is a good thing. |
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Jack Digeridoo
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Re: Wrong way to add this function
07-16-2004 18:47
Originally posted by Veloso Lippmann There does not have to be a new llGetGender() method. A much more consistent approach is a DATA_GENDER constant for use with llRequestAgentData(). I totally agree. you gotta admit, llGetSex is sexy though. _____________________
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Strife Onizuka
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07-17-2004 18:29
Just sell two products you will sell more. I'm not fond of the idea of a command to get gender in any form. It seems to me to be an invasion of privacy. In RL they don't look down your pants to see which catagory you fall into; SL should be no different. If you want to know, ask.
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