If You Get Killed in SL, you should lose $L
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Mulch Ennui
15 Minutes are Over
Join date: 22 May 2005
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03-28-2006 19:25
Seriously, there is no penalty to dying in game anymore
sure you get teleported home, but with P2P, you can go right back. No loss of XP, no loss of items.
This isn't a fun game under the current game mechanics
If I say, got on top of a belltower or book depository, and was blasting people passing by, I should be able to get a reward (thier Linden$) and they should suffer a penalty that equals what I obtain from the kill in terms of cash
to be fair, you should not be able to camp someone for profit. If you kil them once in a 24 hour period, you get say $L20. If you kill them again, you only get $L10. 3rd time only $L5 and last time only $L2. Any other kills would not pay any Lindens whatsoever. This would discourage players from repeatedly being targeted because of their wealth
if you go into negative Linden balance due to death (You get killed and only have $L12 Lindens but owe your killer L$20 for instance), you become the property of your killer, who can sell you into the forced labor camps some land barons have off the mainland
some killers may take bribes outright, Ill take $L30 not to kill you 4 times and send you to the AC/DC (A***** Chu** /Death Camp)
The quests in this game really aren't all that challenging eaither. Making Siggy say Fuck was the easiest quest I ever been on. Getting Prok to blog about me wasn't as hard as the Quest log indicated. Getting Nolan and Coco in an arguement wasn't as tricky as you might have thought. The hardest quest I had so far was collecting 1 Formal Forum Warning. Even the super elite "providing a topic for Philips blog" wasn't much of a challenge to an old school gamer like me.
Seriously, we need to make this game more challenging. The new generation of SL users don't want sex balls or camp chairs, no they want a challenge
make them earn their damn stipends, or die trying
only a radical new look at how you play SL will accomplish this goal
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Ananda Sandgrain
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Join date: 16 May 2003
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03-28-2006 19:28
Let's make a Marxist game out of this! Like in the U.S. the death tax would only kick if you have more than L$ 1 million in your account at the time.
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Sera Cela
A little bit of crazy
Join date: 15 Sep 2005
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03-28-2006 19:30
I had a nice big response posted untill I realized it was satire  *claps*
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Gabe Lippmann
"Phone's ringing, Dude."
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03-28-2006 19:31
From: Mulch Ennui to be fair, you should not be able to camp someone for profit. If you kil them once in a 24 hour period, you get say $L20. If you kill them again, you only get $L10. 3rd time only $L5 and last time only $L2. Any other kills would not pay any Lindens whatsoever. I want any other kills beyond the 4th in a 24 hour period to require the assassin to pay the victim with increasing amounts thereafter.
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Susie Boffin
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03-28-2006 19:38
I agree. There should be a death pile and you have 5 minutes to retrieve it or else!
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Mulch Ennui
15 Minutes are Over
Join date: 22 May 2005
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03-28-2006 19:40
From: Susie Boffin I agree. There should be a death pile and you have 5 minutes to retrieve it or else! this may neccesatate the need for a bank space dropping your entire inventory is not fair but if you could only carry 50 items, it sure would raise the stakes at that furry gorean orgy club
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Sansarya Caligari
BLEH!
Join date: 25 Apr 2005
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03-28-2006 19:52
From: Mulch Ennui but if you could only carry 50 items, it sure would raise the stakes at that furry gorean orgy club
Mulch, I personally own more than 150 skins. This does not even take into account my clothing, hair or SHOE items. So, either STFU or be prepared for me to make you hold my inventory for me as part of our marriage agreement 
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Mulch Ennui
15 Minutes are Over
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03-28-2006 19:55
From: Sansarya Caligari Mulch, I personally own more than 150 skins. This does not even take into account my clothing, hair or SHOE items. So, either STFU or be prepared for me to make you hold my inventory for me as part of our marriage agreement  I will not hold your purse!!!!  
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Sansarya Caligari
BLEH!
Join date: 25 Apr 2005
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03-28-2006 20:02
From: Mulch Ennui I will not hold your purse!!!! Purse is such a feminine term honey. Let's call it a "traveler's backpack" okay? LOL! Option #2: BODYGUARDS!! (also my solution for Vasudha's request for paying job ideas in SL. Let us shoot to kill and take money from our victims, then we can hire others to be our bodyguards and hold our "traveler's backpacks", thus creating a whole new economy based on extortion and player killing  )
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Mulch Ennui
15 Minutes are Over
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03-28-2006 20:04
From: Sansarya Caligari Purse is such a feminine term honey. Let's call it a "traveler's backpack" okay? LOL! Option #2: BODYGUARDS!! (also my solution for Vasudha's request for paying job ideas in SL. Let us shoot to kill and take money from our victims, then we can hire others to be our bodyguards and hold our "traveler's backpacks", thus creating a whole new economy based on extortion and player killing  ) you're so smart that is why I love you (and the WoW reference helped too ) 
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Mulch Ennui
15 Minutes are Over
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03-28-2006 20:05
ResMods, can you change the name of this thread to: Second Life: Vice City!
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Eboni Khan
Misanthrope
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03-28-2006 20:09
I guess this is the "WoW servers are down, so I will try to make SL into an interesting GAME" thread.
1.10 is worth it, it will be ok Mulch, the servers will come back up...
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Mulch Ennui
15 Minutes are Over
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03-28-2006 20:13
From: Eboni Khan I guess this is the "WoW servers are down, so I will try to make SL into an interesting GAME" thread.
1.10 is worth it, it will be ok Mulch, the servers will come back up... was in AV for 30 minutes and then so the dreaded yellow message: Server Shutdown in 15 My server is still down and I got to go to a gig tonight in a couple hours. I am jonesing (we were thrown out of AV when the server booted this morn) Add that today I hit Centurian and just bought my battle standard and bleh at least I know the cooldown of it but, since I was in AV when the server shut, I will be a deserter for 15 mins when i relog  /venting
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I have of late--but wherefore I know not--lost all my mirth, that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory, this most excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave o'erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to me than a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours. http://forums.secondcitizen.com/
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Mulch Ennui
15 Minutes are Over
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03-28-2006 20:14
From: Eboni Khan I guess this is the "WoW servers are down, so I will try to make SL into an interesting GAME" thread. Also worth noting, Playing the game of the SL forums will always be more fun than playing the game of Second Life
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Sansarya Caligari
BLEH!
Join date: 25 Apr 2005
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03-28-2006 20:18
From: Mulch Ennui was in AV for 30 minutes and then so the dreaded yellow message: Server Shutdown in 15 My server is still down and I got to go to a gig tonight in a couple hours. I am jonesing (we were thrown out of AV when the server booted this morn) Add that today I hit Centurian and just bought my battle standard and bleh at least I know the cooldown of it but, since I was in AV when the server shut, I will be a deserter for 15 mins when i relog /venting Cool hon, gratz on Centurion, you Troll Stud! Sorry about the shutdown/deserter situation.
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Mulch Ennui
15 Minutes are Over
Join date: 22 May 2005
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03-28-2006 20:21
From: Sansarya Caligari Eboni--this is the only place Mulch and I get to talk since he wont go in SL and I wont' go in WoW. Sorry to drag y'all into the drahma of Sans and Mulch attempting to flirt via SL forums. It's our only common vice these days  
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I have of late--but wherefore I know not--lost all my mirth, that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory, this most excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave o'erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to me than a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours. http://forums.secondcitizen.com/
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Eboni Khan
Misanthrope
Join date: 17 Mar 2004
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03-28-2006 20:23
From: Sansarya Caligari Eboni--this is the only place Mulch and I get to talk since he wont go in SL and I wont' go in WoW. Sorry to drag y'all into the drahma of Sans and Mulch attempting to flirt via SL forums. It's our only common vice these days  What do you have against WoW? I thought I saw you in AV last weekend? Also, where are the ResMods??!?!!?!?
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Nepenthes Ixchel
Broadly Offended.
Join date: 6 Dec 2005
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03-28-2006 22:42
Mulch, your idea is stupid. Pay money to get ganked? Ridiculous!
*BUT*
It does also contian a seed of brilliance. Some established players like to kill other players, and if we add an "honour" system there would be even ore interest. You could get rewards, like at General you can make the breast slider go to 110%.
Then, there are newbies. Newbies are always coming in wanting welfare. So what we need to do is have the killer ay a small amount of lindens to the vistim for each kill, and have Linden Labs take a cut.
It's employment! It ends Welfare! It adds a goal! It includes a money sink! It doesn't have anything to do with Ageplay!
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Earnest Candour
Optimistic Realist
Join date: 3 Sep 2005
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03-29-2006 00:52
I think it will just lead to more intense griefing. I mean what an incentive, not only do you get to annoy someone by stalking them and killing them, but you also get to cost them money!
Scary.
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Gyro Maltz
Buildin' ze world!
Join date: 28 Sep 2005
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03-29-2006 01:06
I guess this will make Sl a more hostile place to live in. Not to mention the introduction of virtual crime, Anyone in the streets can come "n loot la".
But that too may see an increase in demand for personal arms & defence
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
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03-29-2006 02:07
Seriusly... I don't see SL as a game. infact i refuse to go into a damage parcel or sim. i had a bad experiance a year ago and had a expensive avatar ripped to shreads and i didnt like it. i also made the guy buy me a replacement av. He complied but still...
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Burke Prefect
Cafe Owner, Superhero
Join date: 29 Oct 2004
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03-29-2006 05:29
I want to be able to loot my victims.
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Maeve Morgan
ZOMG Resmod!
Join date: 2 Apr 2004
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03-29-2006 08:09
This is pretty much a feature suggestion, and Mulch you may not have my home number to yell at me about moving it, use ARs like everybody and their dog.
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Ordinal Malaprop
really very ordinary
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
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03-29-2006 10:56
From: Burke Prefect I want to be able to loot my victims. Admit it - you really want to be able to eat them. This is all just sublimation. You want LL to implement avatar organs that you can eat to gain their power, or perhaps store in the fridge for later.
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Ethen Pow
ME WANT GAMES :3
Join date: 15 Dec 2005
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I don't like the idea, losing L$ or invertory is too much
03-29-2006 11:11
From: Mulch Ennui Seriously, there is no penalty to dying in game anymore
sure you get teleported home, but with P2P, you can go right back. No loss of XP, no loss of items.
This isn't a fun game under the current game mechanics
If I say, got on top of a belltower or book depository, and was blasting people passing by, I should be able to get a reward (thier Linden$) and they should suffer a penalty that equals what I obtain from the kill in terms of cash
to be fair, you should not be able to camp someone for profit. If you kil them once in a 24 hour period, you get say $L20. If you kill them again, you only get $L10. 3rd time only $L5 and last time only $L2. Any other kills would not pay any Lindens whatsoever. This would discourage players from repeatedly being targeted because of their wealth
if you go into negative Linden balance due to death (You get killed and only have $L12 Lindens but owe your killer L$20 for instance), you become the property of your killer, who can sell you into the forced labor camps some land barons have off the mainland
some killers may take bribes outright, Ill take $L30 not to kill you 4 times and send you to the AC/DC (A***** Chu** /Death Camp)
The quests in this game really aren't all that challenging eaither. Making Siggy say Fuck was the easiest quest I ever been on. Getting Prok to blog about me wasn't as hard as the Quest log indicated. Getting Nolan and Coco in an arguement wasn't as tricky as you might have thought. The hardest quest I had so far was collecting 1 Formal Forum Warning. Even the super elite "providing a topic for Philips blog" wasn't much of a challenge to an old school gamer like me.
Seriously, we need to make this game more challenging. The new generation of SL users don't want sex balls or camp chairs, no they want a challenge
make them earn their damn stipends, or die trying
only a radical new look at how you play SL will accomplish this goal I don't like that you just want to go and kill someone and thought there are many issues about the combat area 1) its a sandbox with health turned on 2) many people have sheilds that never give you a chance what so ever 3) there is too many people that try to say "they are the king" I hear this often 4) too many god weapons 5) people have used stuff on my to force my cam away it was annoying EDIT: Also I never go to the combat areas anymore because of these reason well.. number one isn't one of them
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