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Olmy Seraph

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01-20-2005 20:52

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Nekokami Dragonfly

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Join date: 29 Aug 2004

Posts: 638

01-21-2005 20:00

I can see both sides of this one. I have a tiny narrow starter plot with minimal rather naturalistic builds, and the folks next to me have put in this huge structure with flames coming out of the roof, plus they've decided to bar entry, so I've got the red stripes in my view if I face that way. That's kind of unfortunate. I could solve the problem by buying a bigger plot of land (in fact, I had an option to buy this particular patch), but my RL finances don't really support this. I would rather like to be able to hide their build, at least some of the time, and pretend to myself that I'm alone on this chunk of hillside. OTOH, one never gets to know one's neighbors that way. Not that mine ever seem to be at home.

Guess I should just plant a few more trees along the border and get over it... hope they change their minds about the build, or sell to someone with tastes more like mine, or whatever. I have learned in my short time here that neighbors are rather like New England weather -- if you don't like what you've got, wait a bit.

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Bel Muse

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Posts: 388

02-08-2005 15:19

Good idea. Make it so!

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Reitsuki Kojima

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Join date: 27 Jan 2004

Posts: 5,328

02-08-2005 17:08

From: Moleculor Satyr

A) It's against the CS to create an "annoyance" build. Creating a mute function would result in LL taking fewer steps to remove annoyance builds and more to just say "Oh, just mute it", which never solves anything.

I mean this with only the sarcasm born of bitter experience...

How could they possibly do less then they already do?

Quite simply, I've been next door to some of the the absolute worst annoyance builds I've ever seen and the lindens have flat out refused to help. Not just ignored me, refused to help.

Anisa Naumova

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Join date: 4 Jun 2005

Posts: 70

12-19-2005 16:02

Ayup, if there was someone I could beg to do this for us, I would. An optional "mute" for parcels you do not wish to see would solve an enormous number of problems.

On the neutral side, it would end most complaints about ugly builds, view-blocking builds, giant malls, empty 'black box' clubs, etc, etc...

On the more subjective side, it would make land griefers, extortionists, and visually abusive types powerless. Consider the land owner's house surrounded by a crowd of spammed "Impeach Bush" signs. In a few seconds, they could have clear skies again with this feature enabled. And even if the sign owner's intentions were honorable, no harm done. If the house owner is turning his plots of in his/her client, then they weren't looking at them anyways.

It's my opinion that, in a few months with this feature existing, that sort of land griefing and black-mailing will end, since it will no longer have a purpose or any impact. And then, maybe we will see a day when this feature is not so needed.

And to those against the idea... why? If you don't want plots turned off in your client... don't turn them off.

Argent Stonecutter

Emergency Mustelid

Join date: 20 Sep 2005

Posts: 20,263

12-19-2005 16:27

From: Unhygienix Gullwing

Molecular, I don't think anyone was suggesting that we be able to "Turn off' the view of anyone else's avatar, only their builds. Anything of their person, their clothing, and presumably attached objects would remain visible. About the wierdest thing you'd experience would be seeing groups of people hanging around and dancing on thin air, for example if you "muted" the parcel that an annoying club is in.

Great. So I mute an annoying Giant Toilet Bowl and get to see a guy prancing around with [insert whatever most makes you want to scrub your eyes clean with steel wool here].

I think muted avs should be replaced by Primitar.

Invect Hasp

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Join date: 5 Apr 2005

Posts: 200

01-08-2006 00:12

From: Issarlk Chatnoir

I'm all for that. Preserved freedom for everyone: freedom to build things other might not like, and freedom for others to just not see them anymore.

This does seem to be simple and workable, I wonder why it doesn't get put into effect?

The Linden's must be want us to be a captive audience for ads. Kind of like why there is no convenient "Mute Commercials" button on TV sets.

Failing to support being able to block seeing unwanted things is supporting the commercial advertising that will be the main income source of Linden Lab in the future.

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Olmy Seraph Valued Member Join date: 1 Nov 2004 Posts: 502	01-20-2005 20:52 /stamp /stamp /stamp! _____________________ Some people are like Slinkies... not really good for anything, but they sure bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
Nekokami Dragonfly 猫神 Join date: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 638	01-21-2005 20:00 I can see both sides of this one. I have a tiny narrow starter plot with minimal rather naturalistic builds, and the folks next to me have put in this huge structure with flames coming out of the roof, plus they've decided to bar entry, so I've got the red stripes in my view if I face that way. That's kind of unfortunate. I could solve the problem by buying a bigger plot of land (in fact, I had an option to buy this particular patch), but my RL finances don't really support this. I would rather like to be able to hide their build, at least some of the time, and pretend to myself that I'm alone on this chunk of hillside. OTOH, one never gets to know one's neighbors that way. Not that mine ever seem to be at home. Guess I should just plant a few more trees along the border and get over it... hope they change their minds about the build, or sell to someone with tastes more like mine, or whatever. I have learned in my short time here that neighbors are rather like New England weather -- if you don't like what you've got, wait a bit. Neko _____________________ Help build InnerLife, a biofeedback adventure in Second Life Please Vote: Prop: 203 - Support local devices beyond mouse and keyboard Prop: 201 - Scriptable Avatar Prims/NPCs/Mannequins/Animals Prop: 199 - Capes, Cloaks, Coats, Veils, Belts, etc.
Bel Muse Registered User Join date: 13 Dec 2002 Posts: 388	02-08-2005 15:19 Good idea. Make it so! _____________________
Reitsuki Kojima Witchhunter Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,328	02-08-2005 17:08 From: Moleculor Satyr A) It's against the CS to create an "annoyance" build. Creating a mute function would result in LL taking fewer steps to remove annoyance builds and more to just say "Oh, just mute it", which never solves anything. I mean this with only the sarcasm born of bitter experience... How could they possibly do less then they already do? Quite simply, I've been next door to some of the the absolute worst annoyance builds I've ever seen and the lindens have flat out refused to help. Not just ignored me, refused to help.
Anisa Naumova prim kin :o Join date: 4 Jun 2005 Posts: 70	12-19-2005 16:02 Ayup, if there was someone I could beg to do this for us, I would. An optional "mute" for parcels you do not wish to see would solve an enormous number of problems. On the neutral side, it would end most complaints about ugly builds, view-blocking builds, giant malls, empty 'black box' clubs, etc, etc... On the more subjective side, it would make land griefers, extortionists, and visually abusive types powerless. Consider the land owner's house surrounded by a crowd of spammed "Impeach Bush" signs. In a few seconds, they could have clear skies again with this feature enabled. And even if the sign owner's intentions were honorable, no harm done. If the house owner is turning his plots of in his/her client, then they weren't looking at them anyways. It's my opinion that, in a few months with this feature existing, that sort of land griefing and black-mailing will end, since it will no longer have a purpose or any impact. And then, maybe we will see a day when this feature is not so needed. And to those against the idea... why? If you don't want plots turned off in your client... don't turn them off.
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	12-19-2005 16:27 From: Unhygienix Gullwing Molecular, I don't think anyone was suggesting that we be able to "Turn off' the view of anyone else's avatar, only their builds. Anything of their person, their clothing, and presumably attached objects would remain visible. About the wierdest thing you'd experience would be seeing groups of people hanging around and dancing on thin air, for example if you "muted" the parcel that an annoying club is in. Great. So I mute an annoying Giant Toilet Bowl and get to see a guy prancing around with [insert whatever most makes you want to scrub your eyes clean with steel wool here]. I think muted avs should be replaced by Primitar.
Invect Hasp Registered User Join date: 5 Apr 2005 Posts: 200	01-08-2006 00:12 From: Issarlk Chatnoir I'm all for that. Preserved freedom for everyone: freedom to build things other might not like, and freedom for others to just not see them anymore. This does seem to be simple and workable, I wonder why it doesn't get put into effect? The Linden's must be want us to be a captive audience for ads. Kind of like why there is no convenient "Mute Commercials" button on TV sets. Failing to support being able to block seeing unwanted things is supporting the commercial advertising that will be the main income source of Linden Lab in the future.

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