Request: Addition to "Community Standards"

I would really like to see an addition to community standards. If someone is selling an item that is clearly not created by them and they clearly do not have express permission from the creator to sell it, there needs to be some sort of enforcement available.

I have seen Linden made items out there for sale by residents and have heard stories about this happening to residents themselves. There is general displeasure that this is happening and nothing is being done to stop or at least discourage this activity.

I'm not one for a ton or rules and restrictions but since *some* residents seem to lack in game ethics I really think something needs to be imposed.

Please comment if you are for or against this idea.

A few months ago, I saw the piano that Philip Linden made being sold for $1000 near the old welcome area, and newbies were BUYING it. It was being sold by someone just a few days old, who purchased it from Philip at $300.

I think this rule needs to be added, Misnomer.

I like that the popgun you have FOR FREE in your inventory when you start is being sold other places for over $300.

Can I get a copy of that pop gun from someone? I either started before it was included in inventory or managed to clean mine out of my inventory at some point.

I also agree with the request for an addition to the policy regarding this behavior.

Curious and all, but uh.. why? We have flags to control it for a reason...

What you're proposing is a very DMCA like act. I don't like it. You're basically telling me I can't do what I want with something I own. If I decide I want to add a single prim to an object, call it mine because I think that adds something, and I have permissions by way of the object to change whatever I like. Why shouldn't I?

This debate came up in back in February, My feelings on it have not changed. If I make an item No Copy, No Modify, then I want it left as is and don't want it sold other than by me. Now if I don't, do whatever you would like with it. Its like automatically sigining a free use agreement.


Here is a link to the thread I was refering to.

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-Skippy

In theory I agree with that. Problem is our system is flawed. Clothes -still- have no protections. Items sold from vending boxes are -stripped- of their protections. People can collect items gone public and resell them.

There's lots of holes... Also what happens if someone forgets to put the protections on something and fix it only after a couple copies get out? Should they just kiss it goodbye?

FYI the piano is free next to my place in Minna

With regards to flaws in the system - like being able to sell clothing that you shouldn't be able to, we won't create a community standard that we can't enforce. We wouldnt rather fix that permission system and solve it technically.

Working on it,

-Peter

I agree, Misnomer. It's very discouraging to see this behavior go on.

I agree. Its not and ethical practice. But I stick by my previous statment on Permissions.

Uh, in the real world we can sell whatever we want at the price we want, independently of who made it.
Would you force me to ask somebody for permission before selling my old graphics card and speakers?
Or even something more creative like a painting.
Independently of who gave it or sold it to me I think it's silly to expect of me not to give or resell it. All acceptable FL behaviour should be expected and accepted in SL.

Eggy, I may be able to sell my old graphics card, but not create numerous copies of the graphics card and sell those as my own brand in competition with the original maker.

If I copied other people's work and sold it as my own in RL, I'd have a problem. We think selling other people's work (and setting it up in a shop with the intention of selling it over and over again, no less!) without their permission should be a problem in SL, too.

Apart from the creator's side issues, I bet it is a bit crappy as a noob, to find out you have just bought some Linden freebie for $300. I spend a great deal of time helping n00bs and this bothers me quite a bit.

Maybe a give only with mod permissons choice will help this specific problem.


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Eggy,
If you buy a single no copy no mod item, I believe you CAN in fact sell that single copy and recoup the purchase price . I have no issue with that what so ever. That is good in design and in line with RL and your graphics card example.

If you buy an item IRL and copy it and resell it as your own to the multitudes that is called counterfit and fraud. If caught you'll go to prison.

People spend literally hours thinking up and making unique items in SL. For someone to come along and steal these things and sell them as their own and get away with it
is just wrong.

Its also a huge turnoff surrounding the game as a whole. This problem isnt new but it is spreading. If this becomes the norm then whats the point of making anything new and selling or sharing it?? Thats what makes the SL world go 'round.

Something needs to be done about it.

I was looking for past postings by Goodwill.

Wow, this is so relevant today.

Let's travel forward in time...

CHRONOTUNNELLED!

FREE means FREE
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