Zor Zeddmore
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07-06-2007 11:50
Well the thing is, the way i see it here.
A lot of people on this forum seem to thrive on creating drama, out of things that are pretty much harmless. You see the word BOT and suddenly its a landbot out to steal everyones land and reck havoc, and is 100 feet tall and is making the sky fall.
You glance at a post spend a few seconds contemplating the worst thing that could ever happen, and then yell the sky is falling and the worlds ending.
If the migority of the the real world operated like this, someone would point to the sky and say look clouds, and suddenly half the city would be in a panic yelling a tornadoes coming, and its going to head directly though there house, if not level the hole city, while the other half of the population looks at the cloud and thinks "all that, over a single cloud?"
Some people like the idea of the worst case happening, they love the thrill of a threat and the drama that comes with it. And that seems describe relatively high amount of people here, and I dont have any problem indulging them in there worst case senaro. That being said, my offer to make it searchable by name came from that and is still open. What ever works for you .. and entertains you...
What it comes down to is that every concern here is far fetched and unlikely. Im sure I can make those a reality if i put a bit of effort into it. Its all just drama mostly for drama's sake and nothing more.
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Darien Caldwell
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07-06-2007 11:56
From: Zor Zeddmore 1. Thay cant pull up all your land without doing 11,000 query's first, thats assuming they know every sim name in secondlife. 2. w-hat offers name2key, not key2name so that place would be useless to them unless thay already had your key.
Inorder to work this the way you say, these griefers of yours eather have a collage degree in programming or have money to burn on hiring a programmer, as thats the only way they could do what you say they can You keep contradicting yourself. You say the place would be useless to griefers unless tehy already have your key. Well as you yourself admit, they *can* get a person's key from the Name2key database! They don't need a degree in programming, all they need is to search a key on your site. It's script kiddies like yourself, who don't seem to understand the ramifications of your own actions, which lead to so many problems in the world. And I'll leave it to you to decide if I mean the world of SL, or the world in general.
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Zor Zeddmore
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07-06-2007 12:02
To my knowlage a key2name dosent exist. If it existed thay could use it. Yes name2key exists, but they do not operate in reverse on any of the existing sites.
A script kiddy cant program. Rather unfortently for you I can program. That moves me out of the script kiddy pool to the programmers pool. And more often then not even script kiddys understand there actions, they just dont care or do it because of the result.
Addionally they can only search the site if they know the name of the sim. So they have to know the sim you live in before they can pull up infomation on that location.. And they would also have to know your key to find the land. Talk about pointless to do, what are they doing to do? Figure out the name of your land before they visit?
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Nina Stepford
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07-06-2007 12:29
zor, you could maintain statistical integrity and appease the paranoids if you just altered the key somehow. do some nerdy algorithm on it to alter it somehow, so that it is still useful statistically, but useless for identifying an av.
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Zor Zeddmore
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07-06-2007 14:18
that is possible, but other consept behind it besides statistics is integration into other things.
Say joe webdesigner wants to open a land sales site. If the parcel existed in the last scan, such infomation as the lands name, and description, size and price could automatically be pulled from the database.
LSL based land scanners, that slowly crawl the sim scanning the land owner every 4 meters, could quickly become a thing of the past. The database would provide more correct parcel maps, with the possibility with them not only being text but visual as well.
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Kitty Barnett
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07-06-2007 17:43
From: Zor Zeddmore A lot of people on this forum seem to thrive on creating drama, out of things that are pretty much harmless. Don't twist your shoulder trying to pat yourself on the back there  . The only "drama" in this thread is the drama you insist on bringing to it by posting unrelated rants to reasonable concerns when you don't want to actually address them. From: someone To my knowlage a key2name dosent exist. If it existed thay could use it. Yes name2key exists, but they do not operate in reverse on any of the existing sites. Noone offers a key2name front-end because it would be redundant, llRequestAgentData exists in-world to do just that. There's also no way you don't know that once you have a downloadable "name2key" database then there is no way to not have a key2name at the same time (SELECT Name FROM Agents WHERE Key=''; vs SELECT Key FROM Agents WHERE Name=''; . Duh  ). I also have no idea why you keep dragging that up, it's totally irrelevant. From: someone Addionally they can only search the site if they know the name of the sim. So they have to know the sim you live in before they can pull up infomation on that location.. And they would also have to know your key to find the land. Talk about pointless to do, what are they doing to do? Figure out the name of your land before they visit? This was debunked earlier in the thread already. Get a list of all the sims (obtainable from several places), regex replace each simname into an HTML link and feed it to a web spider and wait for it to finish downloading. Do a name2key on the name and Start / Search / "Containing Text" on the downloaded files. Requires no skill whatsoever.
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Heath Homewood
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07-06-2007 19:33
Welcome to Second Life! Here's your complimentary bag of feathers, and a nice vat of free tar.
Don't ya hate it when what you think is a great idea, is not quite as appreciated as you thought it would be??
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