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SuezanneC Baskerville
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01-11-2007 12:03
From: Psyra Extraordinaire Problem is, so many people don't bother to name their objects. Same with images with no alt tags on the 'net.
"There are 704 objects named 'Object' to your immedate left. There are 283 objects named 'Object' immediately in front of you...." ... etc. It's possible for tags, names, descriptions, and such to be added by the visitors, if the software is designed properly. There's a game some professor came up that involves people naming images, designed in such a way as to allow people to win in a competion when they come up with valid names; I think Google has a setup of the idea. People find it fun to do. I'm at work and my computer is being bad so I can't pursue this at this time.
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01-11-2007 12:57
From: Sean Petit Just not seeing it. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. You interpreted it one way; I saw it another way. At least we can agree in either case that the subject is ludicrous to begin with. RL lawsuit or SL "equivilent", it's still insane.
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Erin Talamasca
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01-12-2007 14:45
From: SuezanneC Baskerville There's a game some professor came up that involves people naming images, designed in such a way as to allow people to win in a competion when they come up with valid names; I think Google has a setup of the idea. 'Peekaboom'! Not a bad concept, but I admit I'd be fairly cross if I logged in to find the masses had dubbed my newest creation 'big pile of ass'. |
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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01-13-2007 09:23
From: Erin Talamasca 'Peekaboom'! Not a bad concept, but I admit I'd be fairly cross if I logged in to find the masses had dubbed my newest creation 'big pile of ass'. That's for the hint. There's three games by the Carnegie Mellon outfit, Peekaboom, ESP Game, and Phetch, at http://www.peekaboom.org , http://www.espgame.org , and http://phetch.org . Phetch has this to say about itself: From: someone Phetch
The Web is not built for the blind. Only a small fraction of major corporate websites are fully accessible to the disabled, let alone those of smaller organizations or individuals. However, millions of blind people surf the Web every day, and Internet use by those with disabilities grows at twice the rate of the non-disabled.
One of the major accessibility problems is the lack of descriptive captions for images. Visually impaired individuals commonly surf the Web using screen readers, programs that convert the text of a webpage into synthesized speech. Although screen readers are helpful, they cannot determine the contents of images on the Web that do not have descriptive captions -- but the vast majority of images are not accompanied by proper captions and therefore are inaccessible to the blind. Today, it is the responsibility of Web designers to caption images. We want to take this responsibility off their hands.
Phetch is a game which, as a side effect, generates explanatory sentences for randomly chosen images from the Web. If our game is played as much as some other popular online games, we can assign captions to all images on the Web in a matter of months. Using the output of the game, we are building a system to improve the accessibility of the Web. ESP Game claims: "The ESP game is helping to label all images on the web!". The games have provisions for reducing the frequency of spurious labeling.
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Yo Brewster
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01-13-2007 14:05
Well the client is Open Source so now anybody can write a client for any kind of disability. I believe that is one of the reasons why LL was trying to hurry up releasing their code so cases like this have no ground whatsoever.
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Kirill Moskvitch
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01-13-2007 20:07
Okay, Second Life is a game/application/social tool, whatever you want to call it. No one forces you to play, and Linden Labs makes no intentions to discriminate players by excluding or creating features that may slightly enhance a visually impaired players in game performance. Therefore, there should be no argument. If you are visually impaired, there are things you can and cannot do. The world does not need to modify it self to be more visually impaired friendly. Such an American thing to do, sue...
Torley Linden:
I closed this thread; isn't really about Resident-Run Websites. Thoughtful discussion, though — as I've mentioned on early occasions... my own take is, what's completely missing here is mention of Residents building sonic locator devices inworld, since sound is spatialized, in addition to campaigning for things like adding VoIP to Second Life (there's Feature Voting Tool proposals for that).
Since this world is founded on content creation, there's a lot of inventive opportunities open to seize. It's more healthy and productive than a lawsuit.
And yup, Open Source helps in a big way with that.
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