What do we do now?

Said and done!!!!!
The President of The United States of America is George W. Bush Jr.

What do we do now? I'm confused (as usual). We've got some heated debates already going to and fro. Our nations it would seem is being divided. I think we can all agree to disagree, and that's the beauty of freedom. But what do we do to come together and help one another?
Confused?!!

I'm not a politician, and as lack of such do not quite understand some of the events that have recently transpired.

One loses all 3 debates, thier camp says that's OK cause the pres speaks from the heart and that appeals to the American people. Asked about the war in Iraq and the pres response is "They attacked us"? Didn't we blame Osama for the attack? Is this speaking from the heart that we are supposed to admire and associate with?

I've still not seen definative information as to how this plane fit in the hole in the front of the pentagon and how you recover dna of everyone on board with no bodyparts? Confusing.

True we need to dethrone someone like Sadam!!! What could Sadam have done that was worse then the killings in 1989? Wait didn't your daddy have us over there for that once, I was there, AND WE LET HIM GO? And didn't Sr. mention to the world in his state of the union address that we would do whatever it takes to bring about "Novus Ordo Seclorum", err, ehh, I mean "A New World Order"?
Now our children are being murdered, my younger brother is there now, to overthrow this man, whom we've captured, maybe for oil? Hmmm, what's the price of gas and such now? Confusing.

How many jobs have been lost in the last 4 years? What's the current unemployment rate? How many jobs lost in Ohio alone?

Anyway, questions abound, and there's way to many to really get into. The bottom line is, what do we do to bring ourselves together? I don't believe in abandoning our country even if we may not agree with our current Commander in Chief. But I'm confused as to how he will bring peace and prosperity back to the American people.

We all LOVE to complain but anyone want to maybe enlighten us with some possible solutions for us lower middle class commoners? I'm being serious, and I know there are some brilliant people here in SL, so hopefully some of you will respond with some thoughtfulness that the rest of us could benifit from. Regardless of our own personal feelings, I think few could deny that this is still the freeest, sp? is that a word , country in the modern world, and I still feel it's worth defending at all cost from all threats, foriegn and DOMESTIC.

Just duck and cover Jonny, and don't look at the flash. It'll all be OK. Really.

Do we REALLY need ANOTHER debate over things we have had to go through for at LEAST 30 times now in the past week?

"Hmm... no anti-Bush or anti-Kerry posts on the forums within the last 1.5 minutes.... I guess it's my duty to make a new one!"

If you didn't want another debate then why'd you dig this thread up when it was dying a peaceful death at the bottom of the page?

But seriously, Jonny's asked a sincere question here, doesn't anyone have any answers for him?

We have to beat Republicans and Democrats into submission and make them work together for all our best interests. After hearing both Bush's & Kerry's speaches today it gave me hope that it can be possible.

Nuke the bastard.

Here' my short answer for this particular part of your entry:

As long as Bush and his administration and the Republicans in D.C. continue to try to ban abortion, gay marriage, and continue with the outright lies and deception surrounding Iraq, they can kiss my lily white and lucious ass!

Consume. You'll feel better.

We need an active and thriving third major political party.
SOME other fruitful option for those that cant stomach either democrats or republicans.

I am marking this on my calendar. Neehai and I actually agree on something other than we both like SL. (/me looks skyward to see what is about to fall on my head....funny.. clear skies)

Korg, that wasn't Neehai that said that.

Thanks for the back up Akuma, tuck-n-roll man, tuck-n-roll no one loves me , and your right this was dying peacefully cause I didn't really want a "debate", more like some serious thoughts to help us resolve some of our ongoing difficulties and strengthen our bonds as Americans and embassadors of the free world. Eventhough I didn't vote for Bush I'm sure we can understand that a president has never reliquished his title during "war time". and as he shouldn't. This would have opened the floodgate for other nations to point and say "See, his own people think he was wrong!" So would this be a good reason to continue a "war" that should've been over some time ago and bring our children and families back home instead of letting them remain and be pop up targets for this opposition that the Iraqese should be taking care of themselves.
Babysitting time was over a while ago, no help to our economy, no drop in resource prices, more murder servicemen/women as late as this past weekend and it seems besides the obvious of dethroning sick ass Sadam, the only ones continueing to benifit are those seeking reelection.
United we stand, divide, we shall surely fall!!!!!
No friend of mine, but still our Commander in Chief, and what do we do as a divided nation to strengthen our bonds? If the politicians can't get it right "We the people" must attempt to right the ship, at least with each other, anyone here makin up these laws? Neph and Talen seem to get what I'm getting at, thanks to u and I'm on Juro's side as far as some issues are just "nonya bizness". As far as , Juro you might take caution, your invitation is turning me on and I just may have to start stalking you Me likes lily white luciousness
Anywho, I leave this thread to "the People" if they'de like to come and engage in some intellectual suggestions and reselutions and help enlighten us confuse-ed individuals

That's what the republican party does right! They are cohesive and stick together. The democrats are becoming more and more fractured, ensuring republican dominance for decades to come.

The best thing to do is to stick with the democratic party, and to reform it from the inside out. Creating another party will just split the non-conservative vote even further. You'll end up with half the country supporting republicans, one quarter supporting democrats, and the last quarter supporting some third party.

Create another political party, and you've just annointed the republican party the sole party of America!

Note: yes, you'll have a handful of seats in congress, but no power to accomplish anything.

Well, in the very near future you will be able to cast your vote for the Party of Neehai.

My election to President of the United States will ring in a golden era of peace, prosperity and good fashion.

It will be glorious.

Sorry... bad drugs and I am not reding the screen very well right now.

Good point there Hank.
How many people out there voted for Nader simply because niether Bush or Kerry appeled to them and they didn't want to "waste" their hard fought right to vote? Definately ain't down wit da Bush, Kerry, as gracious and well spoken as he may have been seemed to have some potentially scarey thoughts of bypassing the Chinese and dealing straight with the North Koreans. Man to man I go straight to the source but, in this case do we really want the Chinese AND the North Koreans on our ass, both nuclear capable? And in the midsts of ousting the "war starter" while muslim nations point at our own indiscretion all at the same time we're spread thin by having our armed forces all over the gulf getting murdered on a regular basis?

Thanks to all for "showin' some love" and bringing some thoughtfullness to my piddly thread

I think the Libertarians could give some interesting competition, if they could ever get a foothold in "the process". Unfortunately, all of the "visible" Libertarians are just as extreme and fanatical as the libs and cons that we all love to hate, just in completely different directions.

Edit: Sheesh, I left a word out!

Uh huh. I think we know who among us went the the victory party at the Limbaugh compound.

I am really looking forward to voting for Neehai. Tell me you are not teasing.

Like that Jack, sounds like a new ending for Candide...


"Excellently observed," answered Candide; "but let us consume."

-THE END- .

This was sort of my first reaction, because I feel the same way. Either party really represents me. On the other hand, Hank has a really good argument.

So I had to boil it down to my greatest concern - and that is - that America will no longer remain a free country. That the Bill of Rights will be over ridden by the Patriots Act and the U.S. Constitution will become so perverted by secular judges that it will no longer be recognizable.

My second greatest concern is the great debt projected for our country's future generations.

The third is America's interaction on a global level, inclusive of Iraq, terrorism and treatment of our allies and the relationship within the UN.

It seems to me that non-secular, hard working, middleclass people have been left completely out in the cold.

Somehow - I believe that the democratic party has to boil it down to our biggest issues and then focus in on those and address them with a really good plan and as much spin as Karl Rove has addressed the secular portion of the population.

The democrats need someone who can produce enough spin to make the secular population realize that they should be more afraid of being nuked by terrorists responding to our foreign policies than their fear of seeing two people of the same sex marry each other.

That they should be more afraid of not being able to feed and clothe their children because their job has moved to India or China than their fear that their neighbor’s daughter might have an abortion.

This election was decided on "values", not logic or economics or foreign policy. That's what scares me more than anything else.

Maybe the democrats need to state their values in a way that these people understand. Like showing them graphic autopsy pictures of 12 year old girls dead on morgue slabs because they had a back street abortion. Hand out one of those whenever we are given a picture of an aborted fetus.

Give them any one of a multitude of pictures of women who have been beaten nearly to death by their husbands when they challenge Gay Marriage.

If the democrats find a spinmister good enough, they could even send out brochures depicting how the Verichip is the mark of the beast and Bush intends for them to all be injected. Sort of like the little brochures that actually did get sent out in some southern states saying that Kerry intended to outlaw their Bible.

I dunno - some of this is tongue & cheek, but some of it is not. We do have to find a common ground and produce some spin. Sadly, Logic is just not enough.

If your really concerned about your "freedom" here in good ol US of A you may be interested in the "Executive Powers"!!!!!!

Check it out, scary, scary, scary shit!!!!

Why are there military bases, that you can't go to, supposedly noone working there and constintina sp? wire pointed inward to keep ? who knows in instead of out, if there's noone possed to be in there.............. YET?!!!

Johnny - Do you mean this site: http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/laworder.htm

Or are you refering to another? I'd be interested in investigating it.

Rose

The term "values" is code for "religion". Values just sounds better!

Religion is routinely used to deny people their inalienable rights.

You got it Rose!!!!

Confused yet?
Actually that's not to confusing, seems pretty clear to me!!!!