Inappropriate Group Names

Umm, I am not sure what the policy is on Group names, but someone came to my club and had joined a group called Willing Rapists in SL. Is this really what SL wants and do they really allow just any type of group? This was in a PG place and thank the powers that be that they had enogh common sense to remove it from my view, but seriously. Is SL a breeding ground for perverts and rapists? I'd like to know what others think.

I am not harping on any group here, just the very fact they started one like that unnerves me. This is virtual afterall and we still have a moral responsibility here.

If you feel the name is offensive, use the in-world Abuse Report to let the Lindens know. I have seen them eliminate group names before on the basis of being offensive.

On the point of a breeding ground for perverts:

Yes, what do you think Av Sex is about?

Rapists: Not to my knowledge.

While it is not funny there is a group called 'willing rapists' I find it hilarious that apparently there was more than one person dumb enough to join such a group! Willing Rapists? That's just stupid.

Actually the concept of "rapeplay" is a somewhat common one, especially amongst the BDSM community.

Personally, I think that if you don't find extremely rough, painful, restraint-involved sex to be hot, there's something wrong with you.

Maybe they considered it art?

The group should not be allowed. I can't believe somebody is base enough to do this. Any front of art, or freedom of speech, is just a cover for the reality of the matter; to offend people and see whether or not they can get away with it. In NYC, if you walked into an "adult" club and started advertising such a group, you might very well not walk out.

People who subject themselves to that form of sex are not being raped, and using the term for even rough, brutal consensual sex is disgusting.

What's next? Willing Pedophiles? Happy Concentration Campers?

If you dont like a group dont join it. The way I see it if somone wants to run around with a stupid title thats their problem. I say let people do what they want, if its not against the TOS and not griefing who cares. Am I missing somthing here or is Willing Rapist not PG?

Well, some people get all Politically Correct and call it "resistance play" to avoid offending you hyper-sensitive types, but that's just boring.



Ever heard of age play?

For instance . . .

There are some groups with names that might bother me on their own, but I know people in these groups, and they're nice and friendly to me! So... I believe context is important. There is no defining line, just a gradiated spectrum. But here are some names, that taken by themselves, might seem offensive:


Bringers of Death and Darkness
Psychos, Slashers, and Stalkers
Stealthy Watermelons
Murder Inc.
Psycho Bitches and Fuckers
The Furry Fucking Mafia


I would consider it wise to talk to Group Officers and find out, in their own words, why they have chosen the name -- even if you don't like it, you get their viewpoint, and if it sounds like they're trying to squirm out of something more sinister, then at least you know you've done your best to COMMUNICATE with them, instead of making a judgment without their interaction.

You have clearly decided to overlook the effect that this group's name, which you are defending, would have on a person that has actually been raped, or that has a close friend that has been. Or on somebody who does social work and sees the damage of it every day. You need to be "hypersensitive" to see this? Or should engage them in conversation to allow them to state justifications? Would you do this with a Klan member? Or a Nazi? Hey I'm sure they had their reasons.

You would actually endorse this as some form of humor, or allow it publicly as a lifestyle of some kind?

And how do you think people will react if it gets published that SL allows this, nay, ENDORSES it, by allowing it to exist in a world they have absolute control over?

I can see it now. NYTimes article: Play SL. Join the Willing Rapists.

If you knew everybody in SL, and could absolutely ensure that you kept it in your own circle and nobody would ever see it, fine. But you don't.

There are many people who are into rapeplay that have been raped themselves. In addition, it is not my job to hold the hand of everyone out there. I can certainly see how it might bother someone who'd been raped, but if the simple viewing of the word "rape" is enough to send you into catatonia, sex probably is too, and SL isn't exactly the best place for people who are still emotionally vunlerable like that.



Well, to paraphrase Dogma, sex -is- funny. And as for lifestyle, hell yes, BDSM certainly should be supported as a lifestyle. (No, BDSM is not all about rape. That's a very tiny, and quite 'edgy' part of it, that even not all BDSMers are quite comfortable with. Myself, I'm of the mind of "whatever floats your boat, (wo)man!"



I'm sorry, what? Don't you mean RL? And does this mean you're homophobic too? Do you believe that people should be protected from ever having to deal with homosexuals, or transexuals, or anything of that nature?

The ability to fly in SL should be removed for everybody to accommodate the people who are "hypersensitive" to flying and or have a fear of heights.

Rape fantasy IS a pretty common thing, actually. The "willing" part tells me it's ... mmm ... probably meant to be for willing participants in the same. It might be a little bit fringe (okay, a LOT fringe!), but on the other hand, there are a lot of groups whose names alone deal with "adult" concepts. This isn't a game I'd let anyone who can't handle at least the odd adult concept (read: ANY KID) play, because even people who only visit PG areas are still in a position to cross paths with people in stripper groups, BDSM groups, and etc. It's just a matter of degrees.

Personally, I'm much more offended by the existence in the game of groups centered around one of the most vicious, violent fanatical cults in history, a cult that stands atop a long, long history of cultural oppression and outright destruction and that exists today on a foundation built on the dead bodies of countless victims who dared only to try to live the way THEY chose rather than be assimilated into its fold.

I'm speaking, of course, of Christianity.

Color should be removed from SL to help even the playing field for those who are color blind.

Folks, y'all are going to have to start to accept the fact that there are people out there who get off on some weird stuff. People who like others of the same sex, those who like to roll around in creamed corn, feet, popping balloons, piss, pain, and yes, even roleplaying out being raped. It's called "sex" and "being human" and we're a really weird bunch, us humans.



Ah, yes. Down with those murderous Christian assholes.

You are attempting to twist this. It is not a simple word that is at issue. It is a GROUP of people that find some commonality under this name.

I have nothing against BDSM. But in case you haven't heard, rape is a serious and horrible crime. Your attempt to trivialize it or equate it with consensual sex of any kind is sick.

Flying is not a crime that shatters peoples lives. Nor are colors. Your comparisons are completely out of context.

I'm confident the Lindens will ban it. I'll log a complaint immediately.

If they all consent it's none of my business.

Yeah tis a bit of an odd name, but alot of people don't realise the strength of the word rape, and do not realise the distress it brings some ppl, like Torley said talk to the group officers...

Oh and BTW Torley, I am an Officer of Psycho Bitches and Fuckers, and you know me, I'm a nice girl , we are just a bunch of ppl that like to have fun, get a bit mental and have the most random of bizarre conversations

You see? And that's the point. If you knew Willow, then this group name is perfectly in context and extremely apt, despite the fact that it may be slightly offensive to some people.

Shush! I should be in a group named Cuddly, Fluffly Love Bunny....

And yes some group names are offensive to others, but if LL think they are surely they will IM the group creator and ask them politely what the would like it changing to!

If they all consent its not rape

Aye that is true, you cannot rape the willing, I think it stems from what Moleculor says, its probably just a group of ppl being stupid OR, its on a BDSM wavelength, alot of ppl like the 'to be taken' fantasy, there sure are what I would class 'weirder' fantasies out there...

The group name is "Willing Rapists" not "Willing People Being Raped".
[tongue in cheek]Yannow, strictly speaking, the Lindens have to assume that these are predators.[/tongue in cheek]

Ok Hiro, I understand your point, but how the hell do you rape somebody in SL? I think its just a case of a stupid group name, that was made without someone realising what a kerfuffle it would make.

I mean seriously, how the hell are they going to manage it, you would just mute them, if they constantly im'd you, if they followed you around you would just abuse report them, and if they hopped on your sex balls, well kick em in the 3D nuts and send em packing 6 sims over

And I am happy I know Willow! Exactly, Kris.