Support SLExchange!

Yeah, I know.... Not *another* thread on this topic.

But you know the innocent victim I see in this scandal? SLExchange. SLExchange has been nothing but nice to me. I give it Lindens, it gives me presents. SLExchange has been *so*good to me. I think of daisies and puppy dogs when I think of SLExchange. I love it so much, I want to marry SLExchange!

So, here's a thread to tell the world how SLExchange changed your life! But no flirting with SLExchange....I got dibs!

This is just as uncalled for as Ulrika's threads.

Ah, phoo, Moopf. Everyone has lost their sense of humor.

Seriously, I think it *is* called for. Everyone is so busy mudslinging that no one actually wants to come out and say that a Second Life offline shopping website is a cool idea. That's the point of this thread, and considering all the other threads out there; I think it's perfectly valid.

Support hose....some need it

This topic is not funny.

As best as I can figure out from the information publically available, two business partners are in the midst of a serious disagreement... which I'm sure is quite painful for both of them.

What everyone needs to do is back off and let the two people involved resolve, or fail to resolve their situation.

Surreal

Exactly my thoughts surreal. By continuing to disccuss on this people do nothing else than straining the situation to the limit.

Unfortunately thats how things always tend to work here. Dirty laundry gets aired and then its run into the ground ....and then its dredged back up to be beat on some more.

I personally feel this has gone a bit too far to simply back off, Surreal. I think we need to show our *support* for their efforts. Too much negativity has been made of this disagreement....I believe it's time to accentuate the positive.

I support the resolution of this issue to both sides satisfaction....and I *also* support people lightening up a bit. I don't normally poke my nose into other people's drama, but this has to do with something I enjoy...and I think we're *seriously* losing sight of the positive parts of this service in our march to crucify...heck, I'm not even sure *what* people are crucifying.

I like the service. I think there are a lot of people who like the service. I think SLExchange is being done a *disservice* by all the negativity. This isn't about the disagreement with its management...this is about trying to generate *positive* support for the service.

Liona,

Just be aware that by generating positive support for the service, you are now generating financial support for Apotheus' solely - and his actions are the ones called into question here. Merwan is no longer affiliated with the site, through no action of his own. It is up to each person to decide if they are comfortable providing financial support in the form of comissions to Apotheus. There are alternatives to continue to support the vendors without supporting the site.

Oh my! Now I just started new thread and missed this one.



Cristiano, as I understood Merwan he still consider himself part of SLExchange and support it, not asking for boycott. I think we should do our best help Merwan and Apo find understanding instead of damage their project.

While I don't mind additional traffic in my malls I definitely don't want it come this way. If you think Merwan has right and Apo is wrong, then please listen to what Merwan wants you do.

*pout* So there's no way to support the service without taking a side? That really sucks...

Anshe,

You will note I have not called for a boycott. Merwan is asking that there be no boycott out of selfless consideration for the vendors, not out of loyalty to the project he has now been screwed out of. By my stating that there are other ways to support the vendors without supporting the site, I am honoring what he has said.

Can't we bring Apo and Merwan together and talk?

I heard SL Exchange is offereng a new free service.
They will fuck you, for free!

I would love to see it resolved, but I think it is well beyond that stage at this point. A significant amount of trust has been breached, and as you know, that is everything when it comes to sharing in a business with someone.

That's the best offer I've had all week.

Merwan didn't state his reasons. You are not Merwan. How about we hear from the primary parties instead of all this rumor and heresay and interpreters.

Surreal

Thank you for stating the obvious, I did not claim to be Merwan, but did it occur to you for half a second that people have actually spoken to Merwan? I am being very careful in what I say about it as well to respect him and his wishes. The only person who made this thing public was Apotheus - it occured last week, yet stayed out of the forums until Apotheus' PR piece/non-apology. Merwan remains very gracious through all of this, and his not wanting the vendors to be hurt regardless of what has happened with the site is not unsurprising.

It doesn't matter to me if you've slept with Merwan. Whatever you say he said and whatever you interpret his reasons to be... it's still heresay. And therefore meritless.

I am only interested in hearing from the Apoth and Merwan. I will make my judgements of the situation based on what I hear from them directly. I will base my actions on first hand evidence.

Surreal

I could honestly care less if you find merit or not - it is up to each person to decide how they want to react to the situation. Merwan is being publicly quiet about a lot of it for very good reasons, as it is a private situation that has been forced into the public light. If you want to know about it, ask him, ask Apotheus - I hope no more of it is dragged through the public.

If Merwan has very good reasons for being publicly quiet, perhaps as his confidente and spokesperson you would like to respect that and not keep speaking for him.

If you truly hope no more of it is dragged through the public, then how about not doing any dragging?

Surreal

Surreal,

Merwin has already posted a reply and has not been silent.

He posted this reply in the Open Letter to Merwin and the SL community thread...




All you have to do is read up. Also, if you have further questions or concerns, you can just IM him IW. He is a really nice guy and I'm sure he will talk with you.

My assertion about Merwan not supporting a boycott come from him being a selfless person who will of course put the vendors before himself. Out of respect for Merwan, I won't comment on this anymore, though I will very strongly state that he has my support, and that I would much rather support vendors directly with full sales than to provide financial support to a site that would treat a principle partner in it so horribly. What others choose to do is up to them.

I read that. I've adopted a wait-and-see policy on this issue. I figure both of the primary parties would like the time and space to resolve their situation themselves.

My objections in the forums are to Ulrika's stirring up a mob, and anyone other than the Apoth and Merwin stirring up the situation with heresay, rumors, etc.

I have a direct interest, like every other merchant who invested time and effort to listing with SLEx in determining what really happened, and making a judgement based on facts.

I would welcome a thread where Apoth and Merwin solely made statements. Like that wouldn't get hijacked <sarcasm>.

I want some facts dammit!!

Surreal

I'm for that...I'm also for Merwan *not* saying anything, since what happens between business partners is *none of our business*.



Ah, yes....humor. I'm sure Merwan would appreciate having SL Exchange associated with being f***ed. And the mob marches on...



I agree, Cris...but isn't all the naysaying the very *reason* why it's gotten to this point? I'm perfectly willing to accept that the business deal doesn't work out...but can't we all try to be supportive of all parties in what's going on?

It seems to me that all that's happening is people are pouring gasoline on a fire. So should we just shut up, and let the people pouring gasoline be the only ones to post?

Merwan, if you're reading any of this...I think you did a *great* job with SL Exchange, and I hope you can get this whole mess settled. I support you, and your work...I know a good number of people here feel the same way!

Apotheus, if you're reading this...I love what you did with the SL Exchange website, and from what I've seen, you're a talented programmer. From what you've said, you feel you behaved badly and are sorry for that...I for one can accept that. I hope you and Merwan can come to a fair and mutual understanding.

Everyone else, if you're reading this ...I reccomend we support these guys and their website...I think they did an awesome job, and need to know we're here for 'em...that we're not just interested in making snide remarks and innuendo.