Down with the LCC!!

So you're saying if I visit telehubs I will not find senior players selling content?

This train of thought is what annoys me more then even the points that Travis pointed out. Why is that YOU know what is best for the world and for Linden Labs? Has LL ever done something that is not good for LL or SL?

My suggestion:

Allow for property owners to list thier parcel as a direct (p2p) landing spot for a weekly fee and also charge users for p2p, while keeping the traditional hubs for 'free' teleporting.

It likey takes her several months to reach the conclusion that she's never going to make money just for having a shop in a telemall.

Allow for property owners to list thier parcel as a direct (p2p) landing spot for a weekly fee and also charge users for p2p, while keeping the traditional hubs for 'free' teleporting.

Uhh to answer your question...Yes I believe they have.


I said that LL shouldn't let other peoples personal interest impact the decision if it isn't in the best interest of the community.

It is being discussed with in LL if these people are due any compensation. All I'm saying is a lot of us have been losing money on land because of stuff we cant controll for a long time. Can I get compensation for land I had to dump because of ugly casinos that invaded sims I was in for a long time? I have a small little list to submit if so. Many of these people who risk taking a small loss, have made more profit off residents for a long time. I don't think there is anything wrong with that but I do not see how they deserve extra protection or reimbursement.

I dont see anywhere that I said my opinion is gold on what is best for the world. Infact, my original post you are quoting, I didnt even say what sollution at all I was in favor of. I am for fairness. I am also an adult that realizes life isn't fair. Does this mean I cant state an opinion either?

So take your capital YOU and shove it u......ehhh nevermind.

I'm just saying that this is not necessarily true. It's quite possible she will make a lot of money doing this.

I seriously doubt that telehub land owners are worried about the base value of the land. That's their talking point because it pulls at our heart strings and hides the real issue. Telemall owners are protecting their newbie milking business model.

Every month newbies join Second Life. The first thing they want to do is set up shop and try to sell things to make money. The best apparent place to do this is of course at a telemall.

So Josephine Newbie rents space in a telemall, pays the rent for a month, realizes that she's not making any money there, and moves her shop to another telemall. It likey takes her several months to reach the conclusion that she's never going to make money just for having a shop in a telemall. Meanwhile, hundreds of other people have joined the wonder that is Second Life and begun setting up their teleshops thus replacing Josephine, and her generation, who've sensibly abandoned their false hopes.

Now telemall owners can hardly explain this in a way that makes them seem anything other than money grubbing warts on the face of The Grid All Hail The Central Grid. Instead, they've sensibly keyed on this "value of the land" rhetoric. Don't fall for the trap of arguing compensation for the devaluation of telehub land. It's far from the point.

This would work out well for me. Probably most older players wouldn't ever have to pay.

But if I think about who is mostly likely to fund this money sink instead of what works for me,...No, a system which exacts fees primarily from new and basic players seems unwise.

The telehubs were introduced for two reasons.
1) As a compromise to free P2P tp. You could tp for free to close to where you wanted to go but had to fly the rest of the way.
2) As a deliberate attempt on the part of the Lindens to group together malls and businesses, leaving the "open countryside" for private homes and recreation.

If the Lindens are concidering ways to compensate THub landowners if/when the THub system is changed, then it's because the Lindens specifically encouraged users to develope around the THub system. They marketed THubs to us as business opportunities, an instant 'captive' market instead of people being able to P2P tp wherever they wanted...

If P2P is re-introduced then this 'captive' market instantly disappears and the market that the Lindens encouraged is gone as well.

Here is my idea of a compromise to the TP issue:
Keep the current Telehub system in place as is, perhaps add a few more telehubs to ease the transition while possibly increasing local land values.<snip>Implement a point to point TP system...