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Trip negged by a first day alt

Jillian Callahan
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10-04-2004 21:44
From: Ryen Jade
Shit, I have alot of badges!

Badges?! We don' need no stinking badges!
Pete Fats
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10-04-2004 21:51
From: Darko Cellardoor
Besides having a few negs makes you look like a bad ass...


Yeah! Chicks dig scars.
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Korg Stygian
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10-04-2004 21:59
From: Moleculor Satyr
Oh boo hoo, Korg. It's not like negs mean anything.


Once again, Mole the Troll sticks his ugly head out of his trollhole and fars on the world.

Back in your hole troll.. sun's rising and you'll be turned to stone if you aren't careful. :eek:
Alan Kiesler
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10-04-2004 22:19
From: Cristiano Midnight
Personally, I try to avoid people with no negative ratings, that is just weird :) If you have not been neg rated by some alts, you are doing something wrong in SL.


I'm usually too kind to merit someone neg-rating me. I try to leave my fustrations at the login for this MMO system. I also do not peruse much in the mature places etc, old school kinda guy, and will listen to complaints.

This all fits in to my wanting to be Mentor or Instructor-type, as I like helping people.
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Korg Stygian
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10-04-2004 22:31
I am going to try this one more time.

Does NO ONE see anything strange about an account simply not existing in the Find>People database after they give a neg rating?

If you don't find it strange, am I extrapolating possibilites for abuse that don't exist - much more potentially detrimental to SL as we know it than a mere triple-neg? No one else sees the possibility that things can be sabotaged by an account that is not traceable?

Note: I'd post the name of the avatar here so that someone else could verify what I know, but the TOS doesn't allow it. :confused: :eek: :( :mad:
Hiro Pendragon
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10-04-2004 22:39
From: Korg Stygian
Okay. I get it. You don't like what I say here in the forums so you run to the "real world" of SL and trip-neg me?

You're a spineless a**. And you know who I am speaking to.

Edited from this point.

Strange... I IM this alt.. message is that the account is no longer onlline and the message is saved. Just ot be sure I have the name correct, I check FIND>People and suddenly the alt does not appear in the Find People list now. As if the account didn't exist?!?!?

WTF?

I know it's not me you're talking about, just giving advice.
Korg, although I've disagreed with you in the past, I can't stand alt-neg rating. Report it as abuse, cite who you suspect, and ask that Linden Lab check the credit card numbers and see if the person is connected to both.

It sucks, but bottom line at least the whole system is in process to be overhauled.
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Garth FairChang
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10-04-2004 22:42
Alan: I do all the above and always have.

I have 28 negs to prove it ;)
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Cristiano Midnight
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10-04-2004 23:54
From: Alan Kiesler
I'm usually too kind to merit someone neg-rating me. I try to leave my fustrations at the login for this MMO system. I also do not peruse much in the mature places etc, old school kinda guy, and will listen to complaints.

This all fits in to my wanting to be Mentor or Instructor-type, as I like helping people.


FYI I am a mentor and instructor ;) My negs all came from the same person, on various alts, all the same day.Having neg ratings does not speak of one's kindness or lack thereof, only which psycho's path you may have crossed. The system is fundamentally, irrepairably flawed.
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Devlin Gallant
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10-04-2004 23:56
From: Korg Stygian
I am going to try this one more time.

Does NO ONE see anything strange about an account simply not existing in the Find>People database after they give a neg rating?

If you don't find it strange, am I extrapolating possibilites for abuse that don't exist - much more potentially detrimental to SL as we know it than a mere triple-neg? No one else sees the possibility that things can be sabotaged by an account that is not traceable?

Note: I'd post the name of the avatar here so that someone else could verify what I know, but the TOS doesn't allow it. :confused: :eek: :( :mad:


There is supposedly a glitch that results in names not being found with the find option. I have seen it mentioned half a dozen times in various posts.
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Torley Linden
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10-05-2004 00:04
From: Cristiano Midnight
FYI I am a mentor and instructor ;) My negs all came from the same person, on various alts, all the same day.Having neg ratings does not speak of one's kindness or lack thereof, only which psycho's path you may have crossed. The system is fundamentally, irrepairably flawed.


Well said. The numbers don't add up, and good people superbly overshadow any such -1 marks with their personality, which speaks louder than any trivial malice.

Another problem I see, is not just the rating system itself, but how people are informed of how it's used and what its limits are. I do know some people will rate anyone in exchange for getting a rating back -- reciprocity -- but does this not nullify the intended purpose of the system?

In the long-term anyway, I would think one gets to know who is nice, and who is... well, a psycho. The cumulative effects of repeated personal attacks make themselves more apparent than the supernatural on the X-Files :P
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Juro Kothari
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10-05-2004 00:42
From: Korg Stygian
I am going to try this one more time.

Does NO ONE see anything strange about an account simply not existing in the Find>People database after they give a neg rating?


I've run into that a couple of times. I've just attributed it to a gremlin in the system.
Hiro Pendragon
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10-05-2004 01:10
From: Juro Kothari
I've run into that a couple of times. I've just attributed it to a gremlin in the system.

I've attributed it to the neg person being abuse reported into oblivion... I just wish LL would go and undo the neg rates from people who get banned.

Let alone that no trial accounts should be allowed to rate. Period.
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Jauani Wu
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10-05-2004 01:21
discontinued trial accounts and canceled accounts will disappear from the find database.
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10-05-2004 06:25
From: Korg Stygian
And YOU should have to uncheck the "I'm not a complete f***wad" filter before posting.


*logs into game so Ic an triple neg Korg* :D
Sensual Casanova
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10-05-2004 06:26
From: Briana Dawson
Korg.. These sort of posts are so not worth it.

I have (-18) negs from alts. I don't care. It isn't worth throwing a public fit about - especially since this post probably makes the person who negged you do nothing but belly laugh.

it also has the effect they wanted - you pissed off.

Briana Dawson



You have (-18) ... But how many have you GIVEN?

Oh the irony...
Beryl Greenacre
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10-05-2004 07:06
From: Jauani Wu
discontinued trial accounts and canceled accounts will disappear from the find database.

Also, the negs you have given to any discontinued accounts will disappear, as well. I had three neg rating points (that I had given out so long ago that I couldn't remember to whom I had given them) suddenly go *poof* and disappear this spring. I still have another three neg ratings I can't for the life of me remember which person I had given them to. I am guessing all six were from that horrid period in July/Aug. 2003 when the Lindens took the credit card requirement off the trial accounts, so we were overrun with 12-year-olds who thought it was hilarious to come into SL and grief.

It's odd, since this is the case, at least in my experience, that neg ratings from people who cancel accounts or get banned don't disappear from accounts still in existence. Why is this, Lindens?
MrsJakal Suavage
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10-05-2004 07:19
If you are offline and are neg rated how do you know who did it? I have some neg ratings and don't know who did any of them, lol. :p

MJ
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Squeedoo Galatea
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10-05-2004 08:30
From: Cristiano Midnight
Personally, I try to avoid people with no negative ratings, that is just weird :) If you have not been neg rated by some alts, you are doing something wrong in SL.


:D Yeah, I know, cris. I am kinda weird sometimes.

To Korg: I know this whole neg rating thing is bothering you, but, try not to let it get you down. :)
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Shadow Weaver
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10-05-2004 09:52
Im with Beryl on this any responce as to why that is???
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10-05-2004 09:56
Korg, look on the bright side of things at least it was on ALT account and not 3. Also look at it as at least they werent an ex friend set on revenge by putting something out for free to copy that would defile your charature as a whole.

I am not the neg rater in this scenerio that you speak but look on those as badges of standing your ground against stupidity. Which unfortunately seems to run amuk in SL from time to time.

Just remember what one of my hero's say. "Stupid is as Stupid Does" Forest Gump.

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Devlin Gallant
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10-05-2004 10:40
From: Shadow Weaver
Korg, look on the bright side of things at least it was on ALT account and not 3. Also look at it as at least they werent an ex friend set on revenge by putting something out for free to copy that would defile your charature as a whole.

I am not the neg rater in this scenerio that you speak but look on those as badges of standing your ground against stupidity. Which unfortunately seems to run amuk in SL from time to time.

Just remember what one of my hero's say. "Stupid is as Stupid Does" Forest Gump.

Shadow Weaver


amok. :p I didn't even TOUCH charature. :confused:

:D
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Jay Knox
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10-05-2004 10:41
From: Korg Stygian
I am going to try this one more time.

Does NO ONE see anything strange about an account simply not existing in the Find>People database after they give a neg rating?

If you don't find it strange, am I extrapolating possibilites for abuse that don't exist - much more potentially detrimental to SL as we know it than a mere triple-neg? No one else sees the possibility that things can be sabotaged by an account that is not traceable?

Note: I'd post the name of the avatar here so that someone else could verify what I know, but the TOS doesn't allow it. :confused: :eek: :( :mad:
You are probably experienceg an issue I have seen in the find options for the user database. Just last night I was trying to TP in Donnie Donovan from outside my tower, and I know he was there, but I could not get him to come up in find. There is a problem with the way its querying the DB. :confused:

As far as ALT neg rating...I feel for ya man...had it happen to me once...can't prove a thing but it is worth an abuse report nonetheless. It's a spineless way to handle a situation, and I still ahve a bit of distaste for the act that occured to me. I do chalk it up to experience though...it thickened my skin a bit in regards to negative ratings...and quite frankly...they don't matter. It's also why I have never issued a neg rate. Id much rather tell someone why their a complete idiot, fool, or as Darko eloquently refers to some..."Fucktard". I get much more satisfaction of using something that will leave a lasting impression and relay my thoughts then a silly +1 in the negative column that will eventually be removed with a newer system anyways...

my $.02 - now your a part of the "in" crowd :cool:
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