The Life and Times of Jessie

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Jessie is possibly the most controversial sim in all of SL. It is the last remaining kill zone(other than combat sandbox Rausch), where you can be bumped, and killed without breaking CS. At first there were the Outlands sims, a set of sims on the once outskirts of the grid before massive expansion. There were conflicts between people who just wanted to live there and those who wished to battle in the sims, leading to the reduction of the Outlands to only Jessie(For more info on this conflict see NWN). Not long after this occured the main pro-outland group of the time, the WWIIOLers, faded out of the scene, to be replaced by OpFor and other smaller groups. These were good times, the weapons were fair, the people were freindly(when not in battle), and the buildings were high quality. Often you could head into Jessie and see organized battles taking place. As time progressed several WWIIOLers reappeared, but their reappearence was meet only with early aggresion, then acceptance, then freindship, Jessie was active. As time progressed building quality began to drop and the land became mishapen. At times fluctuating in and out of order. But then the older groups interests began to fade from Jessie, and often from SL altogether. The WWIIOLers began to reduce in size until only a few were around and only occasionally on. Then the "newbs" took over, coming in with shields, tracking guns, and a lack of building skill. Then Jessie went straight to hell, the land is basicly large towers of land going often as high as possible with little or no transitions between plots. The buildings consist of poorly textured boxes and towers.

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Having said that there is a desperate need for improvement in Jessie, and while extremely unlikely to be carried out, there is one solution.....
NUKE JESSIE! Meaning, return all objects, and return land to it's original state, setting restrictions on height. Also all land would need to be reverified, because many plots in Jessie lay stagnant, so if a user failed to reverify their land holdings in Jessie, the land would go public/up for auction.

I do not expect this to ever happen, It's just what I see as the current affairs and the one final solution.

Oh and one more thing, THIS IS NOT TO BE A WWIIOLER BASHING THREAD, if anything, they have been some of the best residents of Jessie.

Uh.

The entire point of the Jessie sim is chaos. That's it. No rules.

What do you want order for? That defeats the ENTIRE POINT.

And no the purpose is not chaos, it has the potential for chaos, as does any other SL sim, but is not made specifically for it. And also I have experienced both Jessie in a state of order, and Jessie in a state of chaos, and belive me I know which was better.

I've had mostly peaceful times in Jessie, with the notable exception of one time when Art and I hung out and a fellow decided to redundantly *attempt* to blast us, over and over. LOL. It was memorable and fun, tho.

I'm very much interested in the history of Jessie and Outlands, which is why I did reading of NWN and other sources before -- not the same as actually living through the experience, but I do appreciate hearing the tales. Thanks for sharing, Wen!

Not to mention jessie sucks to begin with. Shows what happens when a bunch of immature little kids are given a sim to fuck around in.

Ryen stop being bitter, you've had time in Jessie, and in that time you were one of the worst of the tracker users, with you giant boxes tracking people to thier spawns.

Wen,

Good observations.

I'd love to see sims built for combat, owned by Lindens, and developed by players in a group. All non-group objects could be set to 60 minute auto-return, allowing people to still capture the area, but clear their auto-turrets after a reasonable amount of time.
Really cool looking bases could be made, battlefields constructed, and it wouldn't be a bastion of n00bness exploitation.

Actually, if you join the "FightClub" group you can attack each other anytime and anyplace with any weapon (push guns, cages, etc) in the SecondLife grid (as long as they are in the group).

I have received permission from senior SL management as long as it is consenual and you don't effect innocent civilians it is OK. We have about ~15 so far, but the more the merrier..

Pffft, dude, we discussed that in the other thread about your Fight Club! You don't fool me, you just wanted to plug your group. =^p

Weapons are banned on my land, and anyone from this group found running around fighting near Cass will be kicked out. This is an awful development - I don't want to be dodging "Fight Club" members wherever I go!

Well it can be your group if you want Hiro.

All it is really is a PvP flag. Other muds / mmo's have had them. Surprised that SL doesn't.

Likewise. Not that weapons are banned on my land as long as I'm involved

But yeah, I don't want people fighting each other on my plots either. So if you're a fightclub member and get ejected from Krittannia or Mocha, you'll know who to neg

Is this really that complicated? Was I using words that were too big?

Ahhh, Kris Ritter is in my forums FightClub.

No, but you might want to explain what you mean? You think LL saying 'yeah, thats ok as a principle' gives you the right to PvP on my land? Cuz it doesnt.

What gives anyone the right to do anything on anyones land? Nothing really. The general thing is not interfering with other people. Now I see no problem what so ever with people PVPing -- as long as the innocents are kept out of the way. Go shoot it up in empty sims. And if land owners ban you -- big deal.

Nothing gives them the right, but nothing doesn't give them the right. If a landowner wishes to deny them he has all the tools to do so.

Indeed. Landowners still are owed the rights of deciding what is acceptable behavior on their land. In the case of public land, I suppose it's a matter of Linden approval. As for private land, if it's not marked as PvP land, I would ask before wreaking havoc. (Maybe unless no one was around and you don't leave crap laying around.)

There are loads of other games for you to blast each other to pieces.

SL is creative, not destructive.

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I have every right to allow or disallow who I want when I want for any reason I want. Hell, I've got people I've never met barred from my land just because they're assholes on the forums. You may not like it or agree with it, but I have every right to do it.

Your best bet would be to get the landowners of Jessie to agree to this.

LL will make changes to sims... but only if a large (if not all) the land owners agree to it. So I'd try and send this forum thread to them all and get them all to post agreeance. Yes... sounds impossible, but I highly doubt LL would do anything to Jessie without consent of owners.

Kris, I think Kayin was referring to the PvP'rs, not land owners

Fair enough. I won't add him to my ban lists just to piss him off then.

I will Blaze tho, obviously.

You haven't done that already?

Curiously, he isn't on my mind all that much. Excepting the times I come to the forums and read his posts. Admittedly then, yes, I'd like to hunt him down and cap his ass.

But I'm not going to join a fight club to do it. Anyway I'd rather support original concepts than cheap knockoffs, so I'd rather join Azelda's Assassin program

Still hafta have permission of the landowners to fight on their land. You will be banned from the land if you don't EVEN if you won't be banned from SL.